AZVAJKU
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I would be all for the repeal of the 16th Amendment. While we are at it repeal the 17th Amendment as well, it has long undermined the power of the States.
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I would be all for the repeal of the 16th Amendment. While we are at it repeal the 17th Amendment as well, it has long undermined the power of the States.
Brute
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I guess that all US companies that export products to other countries would get a pass from them and would not increase tariffs on us in return…
NPC 6060⁸42
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Thank you. I couldn’t have said it better. Maybe louder and with a contingent of curse words but not better.
NPC 6060⁸42
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OMG as if I really needed another reason to vote for him. You mean return our system to LIMITED government. Problem is he had an opportunity and didn’t do this so it’s really just another campaign promise that won’t actually happen. But it’s a step in the right direction at least.
NPC 6060⁸42
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I believe most countries have many tariffs on US produced goods already. Though being honest I’m not that familiar with all of these, my understanding is most countries are fairly punitive to US companies already as far as tariffs and regulations go.
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So, without any “familiarity” with tariffs on US exports, you just assume tariffs on US exports is “punitive “?
OverlanderJK
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If they got rid of it how east would it be for the next administration to bring back?
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Increasing tariffs to the point of replacing revenue from Federal income tax would most likely collapse US import and export business’s…states most likely would have to increase or implement their taxes to make up for lack of federal funding…
Usually when a simple idea sounds too good to be true, it usually is
Usually when a simple idea sounds too good to be true, it usually is
bobfriesenhahn
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I am sure that the other countries would not do that.
We would "enjoy" much higher prices on the cheap goods from China, which are no longer made anywhere else. That would feel like massive inflation.
JamesWyatt
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It's easy to be radical when statistically he has a few months to a few years left to live. Still, I'd be happy enough with just a flat tax.
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I’m curious…you would like to repeal the 17th amendment and dissolve the Senate?
AZVAJKU
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It was congress who did not do this along with many other things that were promised. The border wall was held up by Republicans as well as Democrats.
We gotta get the RHINO’s out of congress, they do this over and over. They promise things and then renege once they get to the Swamp.
AZVAJKU
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That does not dissolve the senate. Read the Constitution.
Brute
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The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures.
When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.
This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any
AZVAJKU
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The amount of ignorance of the Constitution and more importantly why the government was structured the way it was is staggering.
The balance of power was considered extremely important by the Founders. Of course the first thing that pops into many people’s head is Executive, Legislative, and Judicial. However there is balance within those branches. For example.
The House of Representatives is the direct election of representatives of the people of those districts.
The Senate was considered the representatives of the States themselves. They were beholden to the States and were appointed by the respective State legislatures and could be recalled if it was deemed they were not adequately representing the STATE itself. With the adoption of the 17th the States lost power over their Senators.
Fact- the largest donations for most State Senators campaigns come from out of the States. Why should someone in another State be electing your Senator? Would you be cool with them voting in your State if they did not live there?
The balance of power was considered extremely important by the Founders. Of course the first thing that pops into many people’s head is Executive, Legislative, and Judicial. However there is balance within those branches. For example.
The House of Representatives is the direct election of representatives of the people of those districts.
The Senate was considered the representatives of the States themselves. They were beholden to the States and were appointed by the respective State legislatures and could be recalled if it was deemed they were not adequately representing the STATE itself. With the adoption of the 17th the States lost power over their Senators.
Fact- the largest donations for most State Senators campaigns come from out of the States. Why should someone in another State be electing your Senator? Would you be cool with them voting in your State if they did not live there?
NPC 6060⁸42
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As I said my understanding. I am admitting this is what I’ve heard from others though it is not an area I have studied lately.
The federal government survived just fine on tariffs for many years. How about we stuff DC back in its lane and stop their stealing. One great way to do that is a return to only tariffs. Yes companies don’t pay taxes people do but that also creates an avenue for a local company to produce the same cheaper. Not a perfect solution but beats the heck out of what we have now.
AZVAJKU
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Ha, Ha, Ha!!!
I know what the 17th Amendment says!!!
Article 1, section 3 is what you need to read
Again, this is exactly what I’m talking about.
Brute
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If you believe the Senate no longer represents the will of the people in their respective states, why wouldn’t you not want to dissolve the Senate entirely?Ha, Ha, Ha!!!
I know what the 17th Amendment says!!!
Article 1, section 3 is what you need to read
Again, this is exactly what I’m talking about.
NPC 6060⁸42
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So prior to the ratification of the 17th amendment Senators were only elected by the states representatives. Not by the popular votes of the people in the state thereby diluting the states power as the congress was only meant to be voted on by the people within a state.
Of course the people within the states government were elected by the people so they are representing their local constituents It’s genius really but of course was bastardized probably in the name of the democracy blanket.
Of course the people within the states government were elected by the people so they are representing their local constituents It’s genius really but of course was bastardized probably in the name of the democracy blanket.