They're not drones

OverlanderJK said:
You think humans on earth are the only life form out there?
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I'm late to the party on this, and I'm gonna plant my flag now, lol... but yes. If I had to bet, I'd lay my money on earth containing the only life in the universe, except perhaps for something on Mars or elsewhere in our solar system. After all, earth has been shedding bacterial spores for ages via various eruptions, impacts, etc.

It's not sexy, and it's definitely not fun... and I wish that there wasn't a staggering amount of statistical evidence against life elsewhere because it would be amazing (and terrifying) if we lived in a universe full of life.

There are 100 billion stars in the Milky Way alone. And if galaxies were the size of cheerios, there are enough in the "observable" universe to fill a few hundred swimming pools. All that seems like insurmountable odds in favor of life elsewhere... until people realized that Sagan was an egotistical charlatan and that his silly little formula-for-life marketing gimmick was incredibly disrespectful of what it actually takes to create, sustain, and evolve life. Against those odds, even the stars in the universe is a small #.

Also wish I didn't sound like a damn greenie when I say how precious this little planet of ours is... and that's why I'm also in favor of keeping up the search for ET... because I hope.

As for all the weird shit flying around for the last few thousand years, I believe there are a lot of things about our own world, and especially human history itself, that we have no clue about. For one thing, I doubt we are at the pinnacle of human technology today, and that there is (highly suppressed) evidence that there was some serious technology going on many thousands of years ago. But that's a tough sell... because humans hate the idea that they are somehow "less" than preceding generations, so they actively seek to deny or destroy evidence to the fact. Just like lesser kings loved to "erase" the accomplishments of previous rulers who were greater.

My big question in all this is what changed about the state of our reality to cause us to go from evolution to active de-evolution. The academics hate talking about it, but it's pretty much impossible to get past the 10 additional lethal-recessive traits passed on to each generation. Every geneticist knows it but they don't like to talk about it. Lol... I'm gonna go lie down now.
 
sm31 said:
I'm late to the party on this, and I'm gonna plant my flag now, lol... but yes. If I had to bet, I'd lay my money on earth containing the only life in the universe, except perhaps for something on Mars or elsewhere in our solar system. After all, earth has been shedding bacterial spores for ages via various eruptions, impacts, etc.

It's not sexy, and it's definitely not fun... and I wish that there wasn't a staggering amount of statistical evidence against life elsewhere because it would be amazing (and terrifying) if we lived in a universe full of life.

There are 100 billion stars in the Milky Way alone. And if galaxies were the size of cheerios, there are enough in the "observable" universe to fill a few hundred swimming pools. All that seems like insurmountable odds in favor of life elsewhere... until people realized that Sagan was an egotistical charlatan and that his silly little formula-for-life marketing gimmick was incredibly disrespectful of what it actually takes to create, sustain, and evolve life. Against those odds, even the stars in the universe is a small #.

Also wish I didn't sound like a damn greenie when I say how precious this little planet of ours is... and that's why I'm also in favor of keeping up the search for ET... because I hope.

As for all the weird shit flying around for the last few thousand years, I believe there are a lot of things about our own world, and especially human history itself, that we have no clue about. For one thing, I doubt we are at the pinnacle of human technology today, and that there is (highly suppressed) evidence that there was some serious technology going on many thousands of years ago. But that's a tough sell... because humans hate the idea that they are somehow "less" than preceding generations, so they actively seek to deny or destroy evidence to the fact. Just like lesser kings loved to "erase" the accomplishments of previous rulers who were greater.

My big question in all this is what changed about the state of our reality to cause us to go from evolution to active de-evolution. The academics hate talking about it, but it's pretty much impossible to get past the 10 additional lethal-recessive traits passed on to each generation. Every geneticist knows it but they don't like to talk about it. Lol... I'm gonna go lie down now.
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With all of the technology we have, we are hard pressed to detect life elsewhere in our own solar system, much less in some other galaxy.
 
sm31 said:
It's not sexy, and it's definitely not fun... and I wish that there wasn't a staggering amount of statistical evidence against life elsewhere because it would be amazing (and terrifying) if we lived in a universe full of life.

There are 100 billion stars in the Milky Way alone. And if galaxies were the size of cheerios, there are enough in the "observable" universe to fill a few hundred swimming pools. All that seems like insurmountable odds in favor of life elsewhere... until people realized that Sagan was an egotistical charlatan and that his silly little formula-for-life marketing gimmick was incredibly disrespectful of what it actually takes to create, sustain, and evolve life. Against those odds, even the stars in the universe is a small #.
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Currently the number of galaxies in the observable universe is around 2 trillion. From that, there are 200 billion trillion stars. Further, there are approx 21.6 sextillion planets. It's an incomprehensible number to our pea brains.
I think the hubris involved with us assuming we fully understand how the universe actually works is laughable. We look at at unfathomably large universe through such a narrow field of view: our senses and perception are so limited - it's like looking at an ant hill through a telescope & saying we see how the earth works.

Picture us 1000 years from now. Do you think we'll still be actual flesh & blood? 10,000 years. 100,000 years, etc...
An advanced civilization that far ahead of us probably wouldn't even be able to be perceived by us. Unless they chose to.
Which leads us back to: These aren't drones. 😵‍💫
 
WJCO said:
That's what I meant. Great movie. Probably a decade since I've seen it. I feel old.
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To be honest I actually typed Ring of Fire when I searched those pictures. 🤣😂

It is a great movie and I love how the Brits are hiding from the dragons and the Americans are hunting them.

We are old. 😜
 
Ddays said:
Picture us 1000 years from now. Do you think we'll still be actual flesh & blood? 10,000 years. 100,000 years, etc...
An advanced civilization that far ahead of us probably wouldn't even be able to be perceived by us. Unless they chose to.
Which leads us back to: These aren't drones. 😵‍💫
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I didn't mention in my earlier brain dump but the assumption the life must be silicon or carbon based is just as arrogant and silly as Sagan's planet formula, IMO. If there is sentient life out there, I give us pretty much 0% chance of recognizing it.

And 1000 years from now I'm worried we'll be living in mud huts... if we're (un)lucky enough to still have a planet to live on. :ROFLMAO: 🍻

Back on topic: I believe the things we see flying around today are a combination of internet deep fakes, and cool shit skunk works hasn't told us about.
 
Ddays said:
Currently the number of galaxies in the observable universe is around 2 trillion. From that, there are 200 billion trillion stars. Further, there are approx 21.6 sextillion planets. It's an incomprehensible number to our pea brains.
I think the hubris involved with us assuming we fully understand how the universe actually works is laughable. We look at at unfathomably large universe through such a narrow field of view: our senses and perception are so limited - it's like looking at an ant hill through a telescope & saying we see how the earth works.

Picture us 1000 years from now. Do you think we'll still be actual flesh & blood? 10,000 years. 100,000 years, etc...
An advanced civilization that far ahead of us probably wouldn't even be able to be perceived by us. Unless they chose to.
Which leads us back to: These aren't drones. 😵‍💫
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Dude my brain just exploded. Holy crap
 
sm31 said:
I didn't mention in my earlier brain dump but the assumption the life must be silicon or carbon based is just as arrogant and silly as Sagan's planet formula, IMO. If there is sentient life out there, I give us pretty much 0% chance of recognizing it.

And 1000 years from now I'm worried we'll be living in mud huts... if we're (un)lucky enough to still have a planet to live on. :ROFLMAO: 🍻

Back on topic: I believe the things we see flying around today are a combination of internet deep fakes, and cool shit skunk works hasn't told us about.
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Another thing to think about. When was the last time you stopped and talked to a bug or an ant and asked to be taken to their leader? It’s not really something worth your time. There may be (or not) advanced life forms that feel the exact same way about us.
 
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