They're not drones

GP NOIR said:
You make good points.

I’ve got questions myself. How do we know these things are the size of trucks? They’ve never been seen next to anything to give us a sense of scale. During WWII, 5/8 scale inflatable tanks took advantage of human psychology to fool the enemy into thinking they were full sized armored vehicles.

How do we know reports of these objects being undetectable are true? How can source of propulsion be detected when none of the videos posted in this thread show any object as anything but a blur? What is the actual source of this information? Don’t forget, the government is lying to us and aren’t the only source of disinformation. As for the Sputnik looking thing- it wasn’t moving very fast. You could make one at home with a helium balloon.

Drones do not have to be controlled from a command center. They can fly autonomously along a preprogrammed flight path. They can be programmed to react according to if/then parameters.

I’m not pretending this is just a bunch of woo woo bullshit. Something is definitely going on and I don’t know what it is. However, to attribute this to some extraterrestrial source because we can’t explain it is to dangerously underestimate the deviousness of humans. If nothing else, the Global War On Terror should have taught us that.

Check out this video. Maybe it was posted before. I’m not posting it because it proves anything. I’m posting it to provoke thought
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I'm not saying they're extraterrestrial - thats too easy. Putting this current drone flap completely aside, this phenomenon is way too complex to attribute to just saying 'it was aliens'. I'm thinking you're a relatively casual follower of this - no problem.
There have been hundreds of videos posted that allow you to gauge the size of these things. They're huge, not a DJI drone from Costco.
The sources number in the millions from pretty much every country in the world and there are thousands posted every day - probably 90-95% fake bullshit. But those 5% that aren't, those are the compelling ones that make you go, ok now, WTF is this? Those are everywhere.
 
OverlanderJK said:
Have you ever flown a drone? I don't know of any drone that can go to 50,000 feet in a second or go underwater.
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I’ve very little experience actually piloting a drone. However I’ve been in aviation a long time and my last job dealt with building simulators as part of a program to teach future pilots to fly manned aircraft that are essentially scaled up rotary winged drones. The programming and graphics of the sims are quite sophisticated. The face of aviation is about to change.

I’ve watched a wide variety of aircraft fly, from general aviation aircraft to commercial, military, RC, drones, fixed wing, rotary wing, VTOL, STOL, lighter than air, rockets and orbiting craft racing across the night sky. Each type of aircraft has distinctive flight characteristics.

What do you think is going on? Do you believe the conclusions we’re seeing impossible maneuvers are solid? How do you think it’s done?
 
Ddays said:
I'm not saying they're extraterrestrial - thats too easy. Putting this current drone flap completely aside, this phenomenon is way too complex to attribute to just saying 'it was aliens'. I'm thinking you're a relatively casual follower of this - no problem.
There have been hundreds of videos posted that allow you to gauge the size of these things. They're huge, not a DJI drone from Costco.
The sources number in the millions from pretty much every country in the world and there are thousands posted every day - probably 90-95% fake bullshit. But those 5% that aren't, those are the compelling ones that make you go, ok now, WTF is this? Those are everywhere.
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What do you think is going on?
 
GP NOIR said:
What do you think is going on?
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Thats the million dollar question isn't it? Whatever this phenomenon is, I think it's been here for a long time. I think it's been here before us
and I think it's an intelligence beyond our comprehension or perception unless it wants to be seen. I know - woo woo. This isn't just about ufo sightings - there are a lot of things that all tie together.

Addressing the maneuver comment above - the Navy has this on tape. It's not even a question, it's a fact. And it's not just one instance, it's a shitload. Did you see anything on the NY Times article that broke in 2017 and the hundreds of followup interviews with the pilots and enlisted guys involved with those sightings back in the early 2000's? These sightings by the Navy pilots never did stop - it's still happening on a daily off both coasts.

So you're very familiar with aircraft. How would you address the infrastructure needed to carry on these thousands of drone flights daily around the world? Who has that at their disposal to just waste it on over 2 months worth of deployments? How much would that actually cost?
 
GP NOIR said:
I’ve very little experience actually piloting a drone. However I’ve been in aviation a long time and my last job dealt with building simulators as part of a program to teach future pilots to fly manned aircraft that are essentially scaled up rotary winged drones. The programming and graphics of the sims are quite sophisticated. The face of aviation is about to change.

I’ve watched a wide variety of aircraft fly, from general aviation aircraft to commercial, military, RC, drones, fixed wing, rotary wing, VTOL, STOL, lighter than air, rockets and orbiting craft racing across the night sky. Each type of aircraft has distinctive flight characteristics.

What do you think is going on? Do you believe the conclusions we’re seeing impossible maneuvers are solid? How do you think it’s done?
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I never said it was a drone, you did. I have no idea what they are but as the thread title says, they are not drones.
 
@Ddays
This is nothing but guess work.

Assuming there are truck sized drones, not all drones need to be truck sized. (What are they carrying that they need to be truck sized?) How to get truck sized drones out there? That depends on where the truck sized drones are operating and how they’re built. Perhaps they could be broken down into smaller parts and reassembled on site. There is a segment of the drone industry supplying the Ukraine with DIY kits made of cardboard.

Small drones could be brought by people or dropped by aircraft, boat or what have you and programmed to operate independently or in coordination with each other. Drones flying at night with blinking lights could be made to look like a single craft performing impossible maneuvers at unbelievable speeds simply by connecting the blinking dots and letting our mind fill in the blanks.

For example, watch the video where a blinking light seems to climb at a fantastic speed. It blinks out at a lower altitude then blinks on much higher. That could be two or more drones working together, blinking lights to appear as though it’s a single craft.

Who would be doing this and why, I have no idea. What I do know is if someone really wanted to pull this off, they will find a way to do it. Maybe the whole was never intended to be a hoax but through the magic of the Internet and human nature had taken on a life of its own, like Ong’s Hat.

What’s your theory?
 
This is Lue Elizondo's first interview that I saw and changed my worldview. It's not just flying saucer shit. It's very thoughtful & if you watch the whole thing it may change yours too. There are others on this same YT channel, but this is the one that resets a lot



If you don't have the patience, this clip is the reveal

 
Ddays said:
No assuming - these ARE truck sized.



Then explain the amount of capital and infrastructure necessary to support such a massive worldwide operation
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China. They put thousands of drones in the sky just for entertainment purposes. As Americans, I don’t think we fully appreciate their ability for long range planning. That doesn’t mean I think it is China, it just means I think it’s one possibility.

I’d still like to know what you think they are.
 
GP NOIR said:
China. They put thousands of drones in the sky just for entertainment purposes. As Americans, I don’t think we fully appreciate their ability for long range planning. That doesn’t mean I think it is China, it just means I think it’s one possibility.

I’d still like to know what you think they are.
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Yeah cause these are 50,000 feet up.

 
GP NOIR said:
China. They put thousands of drones in the sky just for entertainment purposes. As Americans, I don’t think we fully appreciate their ability for long range planning. That doesn’t mean I think it is China, it just means I think it’s one possibility.

I’d still like to know what you think they are.
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Bob, this is turning into "I know you are, but what am I?"

THE DRONES THEY PUT UP HUNDREDS OF ARE TINY - THESE ARE AS BIG AS TRUCKS. YOU'RE NOT ADDRESSING HOW THEY GET THEM ALL AROUND THE GLOBE AND SUPPORT THEM FOR MONTHS
 
OverlanderJK said:
Can you read?
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Yes. You wanted to know if it’s cool or uncool if it aliens, posted videos of someone else’s opinion and asked questions. You never shared YOUR opinion. I don’t know what it is.
Ddays said:
Bob, this is turning into "I know you are, but what am I?"

THE DRONES THEY PUT UP HUNDREDS OF ARE TINY - THESE ARE AS BIG AS TRUCKS. YOU'RE NOT ADDRESSING HOW THEY GET THEM ALL AROUND THE GLOBE AND SUPPORT THEM FOR MONTHS
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I don’t know how they did it. I told you it’s all guesswork on my part. Keep in mind that who ever is doing this has overcome the logistical challenges to make this happen. Therefore, it’s not impossible.

The question is, who can do this? I don’t know. I don’t think it’s impossible for humans of Earth to pull this off. I could be wrong. If so, who does have the capability?

I said “assuming” to accept rather than challenge the existence of truck sized drones and move the conversation forward. So let’s move past this circular “I know you are, but what am I?” nonsense and have a discussion to see what holds water and what doesn’t. I’d really like to hear your theory because I don’t know what it is.
 
I addressed this in post above:
Thats the million dollar question isn't it? Whatever this phenomenon is, I think it's been here for a long time. I think it's been here before us
and I think it's an intelligence beyond our comprehension or perception unless it wants to be seen.

I don't have a better answer yet and I don't think it's as simple as saying its aliens from another galaxy. Listen to the YT podcasts I posted & see if either one of these strikes a cord.
 
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