Stubby vs full width bumpers
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Ldogg
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I have a poison spyder brawler lite with brawler bar. Added shackle tabs and plate gussets. Comes raw, and I primed and painted it with rustolium bumper satin. Added reflective tape behind the spyder logo to pop. Then added a warn zeon 10s, a rigid 10" led bar and a factor55 prolink.
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IMHO, it depends on your Jeep use and the trails you run. Full out rock crawling a stubby will often be beneficial (although many full widths have minimal intrusion on approach, but still some). For mostly road driving, forest trails, etc the full widths provide better protection. I have seen a Jeep with a stubby hit a deer with his corner (similar to Chris' hit, but not as centered) and it did massive damage to the jeep. I have also seen someone plow into a full grown buck with a rampage full width at 60mph, and he had a scratch on the powdercoat. They both have their uses, their pros and cons, so pick the one that is most functional for you. For the wheeling I do, and for the driving I do, a full width has more benefits than a stubby.
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In all honesty, if you look at my above photo, the part that turns my bumper into a full width instead of a stubby doesn't weigh that much. The bumper on it's own is 85lbs, and I'd say maybe 7lbs of steel on each side is the "full width" part. Granted, I lose about 3" of approach from it, but I generally don't crawl, so it's a nonissue for me. I will also disagree with some of the above...it does buy you a decent amount of protection. Having something slam your tire area directly will tweak your fender, flare, everything in the balljoint area, etc. It doesn't turn your Jeep into a tank, but it does help a lot. It also helps a great deal in minimizing damage in actual automobile accidents.
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How much drop did your front end have with bumper. If I went full width...I would do that one.
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It depends on your springs. OEM springs expect a 1/2" sag on Sahara springs, a little less on rubi springs (4 door, don't know about 2 door.) Add winch plate and winch and you are looking at another 1/4". If you have a lift with dual rate springs, you would be perfect because the sag is engineered into the spring. It is an incredibly beefy bumper, and you'd be surprised to hear this (because it's made in china) but this bumper has the toughest powdercoat I have ever come across, and I have been modding my cars with high end parts from Japan, Germany, Italy, etc forever. I just removed it this morning (stripping my rig since Im trading it in) and there is no rust ANYWHERE on the bumper (more than two years later, and enough salt to season the state of texas.)
Thanks for the info...was yours the textured? I like that look better than the semi gloss. Man that bumper looks beefy!
Trading in...hope to get a new model!?!?!?
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Yea Im trading in for a 2014 rubi. I have the textured. Gloss isn't my thing on a jeep. Some like it, I prefer the rough texture. Wherever you buy it from, do NOT go by photos, go by model number.
Ldogg
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The poison spyder bumper has a recessed winch plate area so that it sits a bit lower. If you look at this pic you can see that the zeon doesn't take up that much grill area at all as well.
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I ran the Aev full width for a year. It was ok at best. After running a few trails I was looking at going with a stubby. A shop in Denver tried to talk me out of the stubby for reasons mentioned. As he tried to prove that the approach angle theory was flawed, he struggled to climb any sort of ledge over 2.5'. I laughed and then bought an Evo 1/4 pounder. This same guy now runs a genright stubby after embarrassing himself.
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I've been really torn between the LOD stinger, Poison spyder BHF full stinger or the EVO stinger bumper. The LOD doesn't have to cut anything off the frame and the Poison spyder has to cut the bottom rail and 2"off the frame. The EVO stinger does not have to cut 2" but does have to cut the lower bracket. I'm on the fence about the whole bumper buying.
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Like I said, they both have a place on a Jeep. If you plan on climbing 2.5' ledges, a stubby is definitely what you should be running.
Not exactly. ANY full width bumper will prevent you from nosing your front tire right up a steep ledge or large boulder that is taller than the bumper itself. In other words, a stock height Jeep with a stubby front bumper will often times have a better approach angle than a moderately lifted Jeep with a full width bumper. I see it all the time. Of course, if you don't crawl, it's definitely a non-issue.
Chris DID NOT hit the 2 antelope centered and the one closest to the center was diverted downward thanks to his stinger. There were big tufts of fur still clinging to the knuckles and passenger side suspension components but, nothing down the middle. Even if it did hit the fender, the most it would have done is torn it off and at least for me, that is a far cry from "massive damage". And, even at that, aside from an animal strike, I have yet to see where a full width bumper has any benefits over a stubby on the trail. Having said that, I would be the first to admit that full size bumpers "look" good and if you don't play on terrain where you could benefit from a stubby, they are definitely a good option to consider. Nothing wrong with making your Jeep look the way you like. :yup: