Okay, this is exactly what this thread is about what constitutes an "overland type rig". My definition= There is no such thing, its just a fancy name to make some mundane task of traveling from point A to point B more "mysterious" or "romantic". You either have a vehicle that can make it thru the terrain you have chosen to drive or you don't. You are really showing that you "don't know what you don't know". I am really starting to think by everything you are writing that you have no actual first hand experience with any of what we are discussing here, but only what you may have read and/or fantasize it being about. Time and time again, Wayoflife and I have provided proof of our experience on the subject, and all though neither of us know it all, we have a pretty grasp of the subject of offroading. Personally, I have been into "overlanding"/offroading/wheeling/4x4'ing/off highway vehicle driving/long distance special reconnaissance for 35 years (I am 45, started driving offroad at 10 y/o), and for 27 of those years its been part of my proffesion. I am still learning everytime I hit the trail. The photos I provided are only two of literally thousands that I have from trips from around the world in some of the most austere locations imaginable. By the way, simply being in "desert terrain" does not make it any easier, in fact crossing through two weeks worth of desert is MUCH harder than any other type of terrain. There is a reason the Saharah is not populated with cities or people. People die in the vast expanses of desert, because if their vehicle fails and they are forced to walk out they don' make it.
Oh, and one more point to increase the level of difficulty since you seem to think that it may not have been hard enough during this overlanding venture.....All this travel is done in the hours of darkness, while wearing AN-PVS6 night vision, using zero white light or infrared light sources.
No where did not say the vehicles in the two pictures were stock. I would not expect you to know that in Special Operations, there is no such thing as stock, we moddify everything because the missions require the best equipment for the hardest job. The Tacoma actually had a FabTech 2" lift kit, and much wider than stock tires, along with lots of other items to make it better suited for offroad work. The HMMWVs, the list of upgrades on those is too long to list, but lets just say the suspension, half shafts, tires and front and rear winches were a start. The Toyota Hi-Lux's, well for starters there were the roof racks :cheesy: the axles, lockers, winches,
Okay, now your are just starting to sound ridiculous. These challenges are being offered for what reason? If we keep passing the test, are you going to keep increasing the level of difficulty with a new challenge until we fail miserably at providing proof of how a modified jeep can't do it?
Please don't be a troll.