MTG
Caught the Bug
Re-reading thru this thread, I have now lost all interest in offroading.
That's only because you now want a snorkel AND a roof rack so you can begin to overland. :cheesy:
Re-reading thru this thread, I have now lost all interest in offroading.
Even if you were to run just 33" or 35", for all the weight "overland" types likes to carry, I just don't understand why drivetrain upgrades never even make it onto the list of things you should invest in. Sure, things like limb risers and a Snow Peak kitchen set are nice and all but, to me, they would fall more under the category of "if you don't need it, why get it". But, that's just me.
Re-reading thru this thread, I have now lost all interest in offroading.
That's only because you now want a snorkel AND a roof rack so you can begin to overland. :cheesy:
GCM 2 said:Mike,
I have had two vehicles with roof racks and one with a snorkel. A 1963 VW beetle (roof rack) and 2007 LR3 (rack and snorkel, reference post #21 from page 1 of this thread). In fact your Honor, the defendent submits these three pieces of evidence as to being guilty of ''roof racking and snorkelling" a vehicle with only the trendiest of intentions.
GCM 2 said:Re-reading thru this thread, I have now lost all interest in offroading.
I decided I'm going to keep my D30 up front as an ironic statement, mostly because I think it's cute! :brows:
Good, because no one should be "offroading" anymore. You must select one of the five pillars of overlanding in which to participate.
As far as drive shafts go, the ones that come from the factory work well enough but, if you lift your Jeep at all, the front shaft will come into contact with your automatic transmission sump pan, tear off the slip shaft boot and will eventually cause a transmission leak. Of cousre, the greater angle that it gets placed in puts the CV boot in a constant state of pinch and, over time causes it to fail and that ultimately leads to the failure of the joint itself. Along those lines, Rzeppa joints aren't exactly something you can find at your local Napa autoparts store or even something that most local drive line shops can work on. 1310 u-joints can be found just about anywhere, for cheap and a standard u-joint style drive shaft is definitely something that you can have worked on anywhere. Of course, for those who will actually take the time to regear, all this is to say nothing about things like how really really small a 5.13 pinion is on a Dana 30 or 5.38 is on a Dana 44.
Vulpine said:Hey, Wayoflife, know of any decent mod shops in the DelMarVa region? Methinks it's time to get that lift.
^^^has nothing to do with a lift. I'm pretty sure it has to do with AT fluid "boiling over" and coming in contact with the motor or exhaust. Pre-2012's owners can do a lot to prevent this by installing a tranny fluid cooler (first mod I did, cost like $60), and by actually paying attention to how much fluid they have. I could be wrong, but I think the 2012's come with an external cooler mounted in front of the radiator.
Do it yourself. This way you'll have a greater understanding of your rig and will know how to fix it if it breaks while wheeling it or overlanding as the case may be.
^^^has nothing to do with a lift. I'm pretty sure it has to do with AT fluid "boiling over" and coming in contact with the motor or exhaust. Pre-2012's owners can do a lot to prevent this by installing a tranny fluid cooler (first mod I did, cost like $60), and by actually paying attention to how much fluid they have. I could be wrong, but I think the 2012's come with an external cooler mounted in front of the radiator.
I agree. For how small of a lift you are planning on installing, doing it yourself is not only cheaper, it will give you a chance to learn more about your JK.
Vulpine said:But WayofLife did point out that any lift at all could cause a transmission fluid leak and if that fluid is thrown around by the drive shaft, it's not hard to envision some of it hitting hot exhaust pipes which is where those reports I have read seem to imply the fire as starting--under the body rather than in the engine compartment.
When did he say that? I'm not sure why or how a lift could cause the transmission to leak. Are you sure you aren't confusing WOL's statements about driveshaft boots tearing and spitting grease with the transmission leaking? I'm not sure what reports you have read, but in every picture I have seen of a burned JK, the fire started in the engine bay or perhaps just below the firewall (in which case I would postulate that the fluid boil over travelled down the AT breather line from the engine bay and then dripped onto the exhaust.)
MTG said:The real question is not whether a lift can cause it to leak, but rather whether a roof rack or snorkel would prevent it from doing so? :cheesy:
When did he say that? I'm not sure why or how a lift could cause the transmission to leak. Are you sure you aren't confusing WOL's statements about driveshaft boots tearing and spitting grease with the transmission leaking? I'm not sure what reports you have read, but in every picture I have seen of a burned JK, the fire started in the engine bay or perhaps just below the firewall (in which case I would postulate that the fluid boil over travelled down the AT breather line from the engine bay and then dripped onto the exhaust.)
The real question is not whether a lift can cause it to leak, but rather whether a roof rack or snorkel would prevent it from doing so? :cheesy:
Lol. Actually, since some people run their breather hoses to the airbox when they install a snorkel, I guess it's theoretically possible that they couldn't get a boil over onto the engine or exhaust. Dammit! Now the discussion must end because we have conclusive proof that snorkels make an automatic JK safer. :cheesy: All is not lost though, I guess we can still argue about standard transmissions.
yeah, i don't ever recall saying anything about lifts causing tranny leaks and or fires :thinking: :idontknow:
Vulpine said:Here's the post with the quote. Middle paragraph, your own words: http://wayalife.com/showthread.php?684-Roof-Rack-Snorkel-Overland&p=6854&viewfull=1#post6854
The point was that causing a leak in that manner could cause a fire, not would. I didn't say either of you were wrong, only that you both put forward good descriptions of how it could happen--enough to make one want to ensure they don't make those mistakes.