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It only needs to stop one mass murder....that would be a start...
Yes I totally agree. I was being totally serious and not trying to be condescending.
It only needs to stop one mass murder....that would be a start...
It only needs to stop one mass murder....that would be a start...
It only needs to stop one mass murder....that would be a start...
That brings up a good point, how do we ever really know if a measure stops a mass murder? There is no feedback loop, so good ideas are difficult to discover. Additionally, good measures take time to show up in data and we need everyone to agree on which metrics are important.
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Concealed Carry Holders have stopped murders.... but most don't want to hear that.
I’d be afraid of getting shot by the cops. Like in that recent news story of the security guard that had a shooter disarmed and pinned and the cops rolled up, saw the gun, and killed the guard. No thanks.
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I know no one likes TSA.... but how many hijackings have occurred since 9/11? (Zero in the United States)
Better/higher level of security is a must. Much like the airlines.
I feel like a broken record bringing him back up. For those who don’t want to read his books. Maybe give this article a read. Sad that this article is about a decade old and not much has changed. We need to start thinking of violence like firemen think of fire....
https://www.policeone.com/school-vi...tive-shooters-in-schools-The-enemy-is-denial/
You have a valid point about higher level of security...but it may only work for certain places. I can see that at malls, churches, gvt buildings...but are we now going to require armed presence at restaurants, bars, Trader Joe's...our country will begin to resemble an armed encampment. I also think the armed security will now become the primary target in planning another mass murder...and I've seen at least one situation where an armed guard at a school failed to engage an active shooter...
Beefed up security at airports undoubtedly has been beneficial, but at huge cost, both financial and otherwise.
Do you really think so (I ask that sincerely, not sarcastically)? Everyone I know in the airline industry says it is crazy how many times the TSA fails to catch things in planned tests...and that is just the failures that are known about. They also say that if someone really wants to do something...it is going to happen. That said, I do feel safer with the new cockpit door protocols on US flights.
Do you really think so (I ask that sincerely, not sarcastically)? Everyone I know in the airline industry says it is crazy how many times the TSA fails to catch things in planned tests...and that is just the failures that are known about. They also say that if someone really wants to do something...it is going to happen. That said, I do feel safer with the new cockpit door protocols on US flights.
I do. Really. You don’t?
Even how bad they are and miss items. Same could be said for every law enforcement/security agency world wide. Can’t imagine how bad it would be with no security now.
They are also correct. If someone wants to commit harm. They will find a way.
Except for the cockpit door changes, I feel like most of it is smoke and mirrors to make people feel better. I've seen a variety of reports from 2017 indicating that TSA misses somewhere between 70-90% of the "mock weapons" sent through the system by undercover investigators for the OIG. That is considered an improvement over the 95% failure rate from 2015.
Mind you, from what I have been told, the preplanned tests are favored towards detection. That doesn't exactly make me feel all warm and fuzzy.
Let’s not forget that there were unsuccessful attempts on airlines with the TSA in place. The underwear bomber is one that comes to mind.
The problem with the TSA is there is no oversight to them. They are the federal government, they supposedly check themselves, but really don’t. So the TSA, I would argue, has done nothing. Kinda like my security sign in front of my house. Locking the cockpit is what is probably what has done it. Reference the Israelis. They locked their cockpits after hijackings. Then no more hijackings.
The truth is that most of the shootings background checks would not have stopped them. Removing guns from the equation does not do any good, there are plenty of ways to commit mass murder. The real answer is probably educating our youth, parents being more aware and involved with their kids. Even then, shit still happens. It’s like saying, let’s outlaw drugs...how’s that going? Nurture is the best deterrence but even then nature (mental health) will have its way.
We have had mass killings/murders in America, and across the world for that matter, for quite sometime. We just are now swarmed with it with the constant information overload now, 24/7 media and social networking.
In America gun ownership is a right that has been given value as high as free speech and religion. Because the founders understood the importance of self defense and as importantly checking the govts power.
The answer is to nurture our youth with education and a proper upbringing, but as mentioned, some of these killings are just the nature of the person committing the act.
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Let’s not forget that there were unsuccessful attempts on airlines with the TSA in place. The underwear bomber is one that comes to mind.
The problem with the TSA is there is no oversight to them. They are the federal government, they supposedly check themselves, but really don’t. So the TSA, I would argue, has done nothing. Kinda like my security sign in front of my house. Locking the cockpit is what is probably what has done it. Reference the Israelis. They locked their cockpits after hijackings. Then no more hijackings.
The truth is that most of the shootings background checks would not have stopped them. Removing guns from the equation does not do any good, there are plenty of ways to commit mass murder. The real answer is probably educating our youth, parents being more aware and involved with their kids. Even then, shit still happens. It’s like saying, let’s outlaw drugs...how’s that going? Nurture is the best deterrence but even then nature (mental health) will have its way.
We have had mass killings/murders in America, and across the world for that matter, for quite sometime. We just are now swarmed with it with the constant information overload now, 24/7 media and social networking.
In America gun ownership is a right that has been given value as high as free speech and religion. Because the founders understood the importance of self defense and as importantly checking the govts power.
The answer is to nurture our youth with education and a proper upbringing, but as mentioned, some of these killings are just the nature of the person committing the act.
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Glad she is OK. I agree something has got to change. I just don't know what. Prayers to everyone.My sister’s daughters high school in Highlands Ranch CO was just shot up...
This shit has got to stop...we live in a fucked up world
My niece is ok...trying to find out if any of her friends were shot