This might sound crazy but i had a buddy that was having this issue and he ended up just going under the dash and splicing in a switch into the trac system so he can turn it on and off. the button on the dash still allows the trac system to engage even tho it is iff but he bypassed that so he can turn off the whole system. his jeep seems fine.
Killing the TCS is not a suitable substitute for finding the ACTUAL cause. Sorry, but your buddy is a dumb ass.
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Disabling used to be the official dealership response to anyone with a lifted Jeep that had this issue from what I have been able to find out while researching. Up until the engine switch in 2012 the system could be permanently overridden by doing the "steering wheel dance" and it would still allow the ABS to work correctly. After 2012 it seems that the SWD only works when in 4 high. I actually wouldn't mind a switch to disable it if all it disabled was the traction control/stability control etc. IMO it's more dangerous to have it malfunctioning at freeway speeds than it is to not have it on at all.
I've heard there is a fuse that can be pulled, but it disables the ABS also which is what I don't want to do.
Disabling used to be the official dealership response to anyone with a lifted Jeep that had this issue from what I have been able to find out while researching. Up until the engine switch in 2012 the system could be permanently overridden by doing the "steering wheel dance" and it would still allow the ABS to work correctly. After 2012 it seems that the SWD only works when in 4 high. I actually wouldn't mind a switch to disable it if all it disabled was the traction control/stability control etc. IMO it's more dangerous to have it malfunctioning at freeway speeds than it is to not have it on at all.
The SWD doesn't do anything in 2012+, not even in 4wd hi. That's the year the feds required ESC for all vehicles and it could not be permanently disabled. Just happened to be the same year they swapped engines. The SWD was disabled that year to comply with federal motor vehicle safety standards.I've heard there is a fuse that can be pulled, but it disables the ABS also which is what I don't want to do.
Disabling used to be the official dealership response to anyone with a lifted Jeep that had this issue from what I have been able to find out while researching. Up until the engine switch in 2012 the system could be permanently overridden by doing the "steering wheel dance" and it would still allow the ABS to work correctly. After 2012 it seems that the SWD only works when in 4 high. I actually wouldn't mind a switch to disable it if all it disabled was the traction control/stability control etc. IMO it's more dangerous to have it malfunctioning at freeway speeds than it is to not have it on at all.
Sorry, but this is fucking stupid! Again, you're masking the issue instead of fixing it. It's like suggesting someone run dual steering stabilizers to "fix" death wobble.
Did you happen to check and see if there's a sensor on the axle side that's wires are pulled tight or slightly loose? So when you turn it causes the system to freak out?
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Ok so you replace the steering box with a psc box. Who did the work? Did u bungee the steering wheel in place when u swapped it? It's possible your steering wheel is "centered" but it is 360 degrees out from the clock spring if u accidentally rotated it a turn while installing the new box, very common. Since u have a procal, center your wheel with your wheels straight and use the procal to see if the jeep thinks it is centered (the procal reads the clock spring position). If the little light on dash doesn't light up with the procal then try doing it a full turn out left or right.
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Is Necro short for Necrophilia?
The SWD doesn't do anything in 2012+, not even in 4wd hi. That's the year the feds required ESC for all vehicles and it could not be permanently disabled. Just happened to be the same year they swapped engines. The SWD was disabled that year to comply with federal motor vehicle safety standards.
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4wheelparts did the work, and no they didn't bungee the steering wheel in place and they broke the clock spring. Originally the problem was the traction control was engaging at all times and the light was stuck on the dash. They sent it to the dealership and had the clock spring replaced, and the steering wheel was/is centered to the factory location via the factory diagnostic computer while up on the alignment rack at the Jeep dealer. That got rid of the traction control light but now it engages whenever I take a turn faster than 25 mph...
Thanks for the input.
4wheelparts did the work
I'd check it anyway since it only takes 5 min tops with the procal. Wouldn't be first time dealer messed up.
Otherwise agree with other comment above about checking wheel speed sensor wiring to make sure it isn't coking loose or contacting something while turning. I've seen the cables routed wrong and rub through and when wire hits chassis it will ground out and cause errors. That would likely light up tc light though.
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Way to completely ignore my question.
And.....found your problem.
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So to all the people that think it would be safer for myself to and everyone else on the road for me to just keep on driving around with said annoying passenger rather than kicking them out of my Jeep, then you guys can bite me. How bout you give me a rid in your Jeep and let my grab and yank your steering wheel around while you're in a turn at 70 miles an hour, and see if you still feel like you'd rather have me riding with you or not.
I DO agree that fixing it would be better than turning it off though, it's just that I haven't figured out what's wrong, and I've looked at, checked for, and inspected everything, and so has the Jeep dealership, and so has 4 wheel parts, and we're all baffled.
Right now as it sits, The dealership is blaming it on the PSC steering, PSC says the steering works fine on everybody elses Jeep, and 4 wheel parts is blaming it on my Jeep saying they did everything right.
Based on your earlier helpful posts I figured ignoring you is prolly the best way to treat your posts, and you once again live up to that conclusion. :boohoo:
4wheelparts did the work, and no they didn't bungee the steering wheel in place and they broke the clock spring.
My 08 does that. It's an eletronic roll mitigation I believe that kicks in on my when I get too much body roll... of course I was able to do the steering wheel dance. But same thing. Except dealer installed lift, took it for alignments, took it to several shops and nobody could figure it out. I realized it was the body roll when I didn't have my hard top on and had significantly less body roll and it never kicked on. Sorry I have no fix for you, just a thought as to what could be going on
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The 4WP on Virignia Beach BLVD?
If your steering wheel is centered according to your procal then maybe it could be one of the four tone ring sensors are going bad. Maybe one of them is loose and randomly not reading a tone correctly. It's not to difficult to pull each tone ring sensor out of the back of the brake backing plate to inspect them. You don't even have to disconnect the tricky plugs on the sensors to pull them out to have a look. If all seems in good order at each wheel maybe the direction sensor that's inside the jeep (under the center console somewhere?) is starting to malfunction. If I were in your position, having visually inspected all of the wheel sensors, I'd buy a new wheel speed sensor and start swapping it into one of the four corners, one at a time, driving in between swaps to see if the problem gets any better. Sounds like you need to fix this yourself as the dealer a 4wheel farts are leaving you high and dry while they blame someone/thing else. Good luck!
I agree. It's something to do with body/chassis roll. It might have something to do with the raised track bar locations instead of running adjustable track bars.