Loaded 2012 Unlimited trail ready JK - Better then a Rubicon

[JAGS]

I understand coming on just to sell but to start bashing the choices in the parts used. I know that some parts are better then others but that's when it all boils down to budget and personal preference. I just don't want to be told that the lift, wheels or bumper I went with is crap.

Exactly what these two said. :thumb: We all start somewhere with our jeeps. Many have installed some crappy items and simply share experiences. No one will bash a new jeeper, unless said jeeper is an :asshat: in going about touting their build and thinking they everything, without any first hand experiences with multiple manufacturers.

This is a great place to learn and ask questions. It was almost two years before I built up my jeep. I spent a lot of time asking questions and trying to have an open mind to comments and learned what I wanted out of my jeep. Suggest you do the same as that's how you become part of the forum family. :yup:

Start a build thread, I can almost guarantee nobody will do that.
Now if you start a regular thread in jeep tech saying one brand is the best lift, or one product is best, people might not agree and then you could have a argument on your hands.

If you come on here with a decent attitude and aren't trying to sell us said crap parts for more than they cost brand new, (ESPECIALLY if you've only got 2 posts and they are both trying to over sell some Chinese BS) then no one is going to bash you for it.

Basically, don't be a douche-nozzle and no one us gonna be an ass to you.

Levi

2013 CG JKU 6-speed

 

[Dukes_of_C.Rock]

That really isn't likely to happen. Reason we chose to push the issue with the OP was because (1), he's only here to sell and (2), he was trying to get new prices for his added on mods. Oh, and let's not forget (3), attempting to brag about how much better built and capable his ride is compared to most everyone else's, including the owner of this same forum that he is a guest on. In my short time here I have seen how bragging about your wheeling skills or how your ride is better than anyone else's tends to lead to a short stay.

I hope I never get bashed for the choice in parts I buy. I have seen your rig on past post and it is one to be admired.

 

[jesse3638]

Now I am afraid to post anything on this forum. I might have bought the wrong part that looked good to me but will be bashed and told that I was stupid for doing so. I'm fairly new to the the forum and the jeep world and I signed up on the forum to able to have the ability to search for and get advice. Reason for only a couple posts.

That's typically not going to happen except for the above stated reasons. I was first a member of JKF before I even had a jeep when Eddie still ran it. Being new had a lot of questions, people were quick to answer and never once was I bashed for asking a "noob" question. The same carried over here to this forum, so welcome and enjoy the WAYALIFE!

 

[ridg3runner]

I hope I never get bashed for the choice in parts I buy. I have seen your rig on past post and it is one to be admired.

And mine isn't perfect by any means. I have multiple parts on Mumbo that aren't of the absolute highest quality, but I don't run around bragging about it and I'm not bashed for my choices but instead left to find out good or bad on my own. At the same time, good sound advice is always available to me or anyone else simply by asking.

 

[Deserteagle83]

Just wondering if this asshat has figured out the guy he's calling a troll is on 40's, 60's & coil overs yet... Lmao

He could be driving Bigfoot, he's still trolling. One has nothing to do with the other.

His rig is badass... Ok. He's trolling me. Both are valid statements.

 

[Deserteagle83]

I guess you need to get some better lawyers in Maryland. Nothing in those code sections makes long arms per se illegal. The state would have the burden of proving that the installation of long-arms on a JK "affects vehicle stability." That's a fight I would gladly take on and win (I know a thing or two about challenging governmental agencies on the way they interpret and apply their own codes.) Among other things, the "stability" of a vehicle can be affected by the size of the tires and the height of the springs, but not really by the length of the arms (at least when we are talking about going from short arms to longer arms; obviously, shortening arms can negatively affect stability.) No engineer worth their salt is going to testify that a 4 inch spring lift on 35's with long arms has worse stability than a 4 inch spring lift with 35's on short-arms. Regardless, just because your inspection station tells you something is law, that doesn't make it so.

Fact of the matter is though, there wouldn't be much point to going with a long arm lift just to run 35's. If you were half as knowledgeable as you think you are, you would know this. Instead of ranting and raving about Maryland codes, you would have simply stated that you never intend to run greater than 35's so there was no point in spending the money to get a long-arm lift. Regular adjustable controls arms can handle 35's just fine and the benefits of a long-arm would be very minimal, if any.

A few more things, Mr. :asshat: , craptastic monotube shocks are far from the best thing since sliced bread (on road or off.) The dual steering stabilizers really take the cake though.

Or instead of trying to appease a community that thinks they know everything I would simply build my rig as I see fit. Which is what I did. And by the way, your compadres on here suggested the long arm. I merely said that I got the best non ling arm lift that I could find. Why does my reasoning matter to you? Why do you care? I got the lift I got because I wanted to. Period... End of story.


Another thing. Why the hell is it the fact that MD doesn't allow long arm lifts a fight you are taking up with me? If you want that fight then move to MD, install a long arm lift on your jeep and fight MD. I stated what the rules are. If you think they should be different then why don't you try to change them? Do something productive for the community in MD... Or you could continue to troll this thread like the rest, which I presume will be your choice.

 

[Deserteagle83]

If you have a build thread, I believe it's common courtesy not to go in bashing or being negative about a person's build. (Unless they deserve it)
But to just post here to sell over priced stuff is frowned upon.

I've been a member of this forum just as long as the trolls that were bashing me. So the statement that I joined just to sell stuff is BS. Like I said earlier, I'm regularly on here. I regularly wheel. He'll, I'm even rocking a WAYALIFE sticker on my rig. To hell with you and your opinion.

 

[Deserteagle83]

And mine isn't perfect by any means. I have multiple parts on Mumbo that aren't of the absolute highest quality, but I don't run around bragging about it and I'm not bashed for my choices but instead left to find out good or bad on my own. At the same time, good sound advice is always available to me or anyone else simply by asking.

Who was bragging? You might need to re-read this thread. I was trolled for DAYS before I responded.

 

[Deserteagle83]

Your right that makes the op a troll for provoking my emotions implying those of us who bought a rubicon wasted our money, he also broke the rules by being here just to sell his crap that makes this whole thread garbage.. Therefore this is my last post on it :standingwave:

Here just to sell crap? You might need to recheck how long ive been a member. I'd be almost willing to bet I visit this forum more than you. I just normally choose not to post. Unlike most everyone who has responded on this thread, I usually don't post anything unless I have something valuable to add to the conversation. That rule is obviously is not reciprocal.

 

[Sharkey]

Or instead of trying to appease a community that thinks they know everything I would simply build my rig as I see fit. Which is what I did. And by the way, your compadres on here suggested the long arm. I merely said that I got the best non ling arm lift that I could find. Why does my reasoning matter to you? Why do you care? I got the lift I got because I wanted to. Period... End of story.


Another thing. Why the hell is it the fact that MD doesn't allow long arm lifts a fight you are taking up with me? If you want that fight then move to MD, install a long arm lift on your jeep and fight MD. I stated what the rules are. If you think they should be different then why don't you try to change them? Do something productive for the community in MD... Or you could continue to troll this thread like the rest, which I presume will be your choice.

I call bullshit when I see it, plain and simple. When someone claims their lift is the best non-coilover, non-long arm lift that money can buy, I take interest. We all should. When someone claims that their state laws preclude certain types of modifications, I take interest. We all should.

People have every right to build their rigs with whatever parts they see fit. I, for one, am glad that people don't all have matching rigs. You drew negative attention to yourself for a whole lot of reasons, not the least of which was acting like you and your rig are the three-peat champions of the King of the Hammers. You made your Wayalife bed, enjoy it while it lasts because something tells me you probably won't be around here that much longer.

 

[MTG]

Still :munching:


Though I admit I've grown weary of trying to keep up. Can someone give me the cliff's notes version?

BTW--who's cliff and why should we listen to him?

Answered my own question:

A Brief History

Clifton Keith Hillegass, the founder of CliffsNotes, was born in Rising City, Nebraska, on April 18, 1918. After graduating from college, he worked as a college bookstore representative for Long's College Bookstore (now the Nebraska Book Company).

One of the contacts Cliff developed while at Long's was Jack Cole, owner of Coles, The Book People. Cole's business produced study guides called Cole's Notes, published in Canada. Cole suggested to Cliff that American students would welcome a U.S. version of the notes. With that idea, Cliff launched CliffsNotes in August 1958, with a line of 16 Shakespeare study guides. Working out of Lincoln, Nebraska, Cliff built the company that produced study guides destined to become a multi-generational icon.

:thumb:

 

[MTG]

not the least of which was acting like you and your rig are the three-peat champions of the King of the Hammers.

:cheesy: That's pretty funny.

 

[Deserteagle83]

That really isn't likely to happen. Reason we chose to push the issue with the OP was because (1), he's only here to sell and (2), he was trying to get new prices for his added on mods. Oh, and let's not forget (3), attempting to brag about how much better built and capable his ride is compared to most everyone else's, including the owner of this same forum that he is a guest on. In my short time here I have seen how bragging about your wheeling skills or how your ride is better than anyone else's tends to lead to a short stay.

You haven't made a truthful or factual post on this thread. New prices? What the hell are you talking about! I listed all of my mods and then discounted everything by 50%. What more could be done? I also never compared my riff to the owners of this forum. Find that post! You are a troll and a liar. Furthermore, you started bashing my rig and I defended my choices. The only capability statements I made is that Mila is more capable than a factory Rubicon. Which is a statement that I made yesterday and still stand by today!

Show me where I bragged about my wheeling skills.
Show me where I compared my ride to another's. You trolled me and I responded.

 

[Deserteagle83]

I call bullshit when I see it, plain and simple. When someone claims their lift is the best non-coilover, non-long arm lift that money can buy, I take interest. We all should. When someone claims that their state laws preclude certain types of modifications, I take interest. We all should.

People have every right to build their rigs with whatever parts they see fit. I, for one, am glad that people don't all have matching rigs. You drew negative attention to yourself for a whole lot of reasons, not the least of which was acting like you and your rig are the three-peat champions of the King of the Hammers. You made your Wayalife bed, enjoy it while it lasts because something tells me you probably won't be around here that much longer.

Where the hell did I say that. Find the post. Quote it and repost it! I stated that I planned my build and purchased the best mods to suit my needs. I bought the best lift to suit my needs, the best wheels to suit my needs, and the best everything that I could find to suit my needs. I was bashed hard and for days before I responded. Maybe you should retread this thread. I was provoked and agitated. It's pretty easy to see how this all went down.

And for the record if this is the treatment that a long time member gets, the. You can have it, your ability to bash someone for their choices and to post endless comments bashing them doesn't make you a god and it doesn't contribute to your forum. Go back and look at how this went down. All of my statements were DEFENSIVE statements. You aren't saying chit about your fellow forum junkies bashing me, but somehow I'm the asshole when I respond to the bashing. Screw you.

 

[Deserteagle83]

And for you Mods, go back and look at post #80 on this thread. That's where the trolling officially started. Before that post everything was good. What benefit did that post add? What was event he point of that? Simply to troll.

 

[Irish JK]

Well the good news is you've gotten your post count up.

 

[ridg3runner]

Who was bragging? You might need to re-read this thread. I was trolled for DAYS before I responded.

Go play the victim someplace else

 

[ridg3runner]

And for you Mods, go back and look at post #80 on this thread. That's where the trolling officially started. Before that post everything was good. What benefit did that post add? What was event he point of that? Simply to troll.

Actually, it started at post #1, get it right Sissyboy.

 

[Deserteagle83]

Well the good news is you've gotten your post count up.

I guess. It's sad though that I have been a member just about as long as the guys that were trolling me, but somehow in their warped world, post count has bearing on legitimacy. Fact of the matter is I have been on this forum for a while, I currently own 3 Jeeps (The 2012 JK that i'm thinking about selling, a 90' YJ, and a 2011 WK2 Overland) and I really have nothing to prove to the trolls on here. Trolls aside this forum is generally a great place for research and to see what's going on in the community.

A world where post count makes someone "legit" is not a world I want to be a part of... Especially when half of the peoples posts that have these high counts are trolling posts or "welcome to WAYALIFE" posts.

I can understand the trolls. They were doing their job... Trolling, the one thing that really bothered me was the moderator suggesting that something was ok by the law, which I know for a fact isn't. That's really irresponsible. There are a lot of people like me who use this forum for research, and many of them view a Mod's word as gospel. When they see a Mod saying that he "thinks" a long arm lift is legal in such and such a state, that could potentially cause issues for them down the road if they install said life and try to get it inspected.

 

[Deserteagle83]

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