Wardell
New member
Recreational Outrage
Hi Eddie. I know I'm new here, and this isn't exactly what I pictured making my first post about (I'll post a proper wave shortly), but with all these shenanigans starting just after I signed up I thought I may as well give my take on it.
This whole thing reminds me of a term I've heard mentioned on another forum by someone who found himself in a similar situation as you, with a lot of unjustified hate directed towards him: Recreational Outrage. Here's a definition I found, which sums it up pretty concisely:
RO -- "Recreational Outrage" describes when a poster expresses righteous indignation and gets highly worked up (outraged) over some issue, typically some news occurrence that is completely irrelevant to the person’s own life and has no effect on that poster personally. The poster derives (recreational) satisfaction from expressing outrage and moral indignation, frequently including a sense of moral superiority, thus differentiating Recreational Outrage from other forms of outrage.
This isn't the first time this sort of thing has happened on the internet, and sadly it's not the last...
These people who get off on posting hate just for the sake of posting hate, even though the vast majority of them wouldn't think of saying this sort of thing in person, really need a better hobby. Maybe they should turn off their computer and go take their Jeep for a drive through nature with a few friends. After all, isn't that what this forum and others like it are really about?
There's really no good way to deal with these trolls, other than laughing at their antics, sharing what they have said so their own words can shame them (not that they would feel the shame, considering they're looking for a false sense of moral superiority), and banning them when they start doing any real damage (threats, showing a severe lack of integrity, etc) - which is basically what you're already doing. You could tell them to take their recreational outrage elsewhere, but that would just be feeding the trolls and wouldn't change anything...
I'm sure you don't need me to say it, but keep doing what you're doing. Your videos are one of the things that helped convince me to buy a Jeep in the first place. Unlike a lot of others out there, they weren't just about "look at my shiny built up rig and all the stuff I can run over..." (although let's face it, it's part of owning a Jeep and seriously getting into the hobby). It also wasn't just about the sponsors that support the forum and JK-Experience trips (something the "free parts and money" haters seem quick to overlook). What made them stand out was that the videos were about a community of Jeepers and the fun you have had together. That's something missing from a lot of the other Jeep groups out there, and that echos in their associated forums. Even if it weren't for the hate, it kinda seems like they are missing the point.
Also, I had been thinking about getting the Teraflex tire carrier and 2.5" lift (either a budget boost or spring lift). After seeing the pics you shared about the breaks by the tire carrier, I've decided against that. It's not hate or "brand shaming" to simply post pics of things that actually happened, particularly when it comes to safety like this. I've also read your favourable review / install write up on their budget boost, but after seeing Dennis' comments on FB I've pretty much changed my mind on their products altogether. Sure, I get what he's saying about mounting the tire tight to the tailgate to cut down on metal fatiguing vibrations (I think it was mentioned in his install video), but there's obviously way more going on than that. You don't need to be an engineer to see it, and I don't need to be blamed for an install error or basically called a dummy that needs to be "taken care of." Yeah... I'll take my money elsewhere, your loss.
And by the way, these haters have nothing on the real player haters (I wish I could find this in better quality, but hate, hate, hate...)
http://www.blackbottom.com/watch.php?v=575a71817687186bc55b215d10b5b7ee941b4acb
Hi Eddie. I know I'm new here, and this isn't exactly what I pictured making my first post about (I'll post a proper wave shortly), but with all these shenanigans starting just after I signed up I thought I may as well give my take on it.
This whole thing reminds me of a term I've heard mentioned on another forum by someone who found himself in a similar situation as you, with a lot of unjustified hate directed towards him: Recreational Outrage. Here's a definition I found, which sums it up pretty concisely:
RO -- "Recreational Outrage" describes when a poster expresses righteous indignation and gets highly worked up (outraged) over some issue, typically some news occurrence that is completely irrelevant to the person’s own life and has no effect on that poster personally. The poster derives (recreational) satisfaction from expressing outrage and moral indignation, frequently including a sense of moral superiority, thus differentiating Recreational Outrage from other forms of outrage.
This isn't the first time this sort of thing has happened on the internet, and sadly it's not the last...
These people who get off on posting hate just for the sake of posting hate, even though the vast majority of them wouldn't think of saying this sort of thing in person, really need a better hobby. Maybe they should turn off their computer and go take their Jeep for a drive through nature with a few friends. After all, isn't that what this forum and others like it are really about?
There's really no good way to deal with these trolls, other than laughing at their antics, sharing what they have said so their own words can shame them (not that they would feel the shame, considering they're looking for a false sense of moral superiority), and banning them when they start doing any real damage (threats, showing a severe lack of integrity, etc) - which is basically what you're already doing. You could tell them to take their recreational outrage elsewhere, but that would just be feeding the trolls and wouldn't change anything...
I'm sure you don't need me to say it, but keep doing what you're doing. Your videos are one of the things that helped convince me to buy a Jeep in the first place. Unlike a lot of others out there, they weren't just about "look at my shiny built up rig and all the stuff I can run over..." (although let's face it, it's part of owning a Jeep and seriously getting into the hobby). It also wasn't just about the sponsors that support the forum and JK-Experience trips (something the "free parts and money" haters seem quick to overlook). What made them stand out was that the videos were about a community of Jeepers and the fun you have had together. That's something missing from a lot of the other Jeep groups out there, and that echos in their associated forums. Even if it weren't for the hate, it kinda seems like they are missing the point.
Also, I had been thinking about getting the Teraflex tire carrier and 2.5" lift (either a budget boost or spring lift). After seeing the pics you shared about the breaks by the tire carrier, I've decided against that. It's not hate or "brand shaming" to simply post pics of things that actually happened, particularly when it comes to safety like this. I've also read your favourable review / install write up on their budget boost, but after seeing Dennis' comments on FB I've pretty much changed my mind on their products altogether. Sure, I get what he's saying about mounting the tire tight to the tailgate to cut down on metal fatiguing vibrations (I think it was mentioned in his install video), but there's obviously way more going on than that. You don't need to be an engineer to see it, and I don't need to be blamed for an install error or basically called a dummy that needs to be "taken care of." Yeah... I'll take my money elsewhere, your loss.
And by the way, these haters have nothing on the real player haters (I wish I could find this in better quality, but hate, hate, hate...)
http://www.blackbottom.com/watch.php?v=575a71817687186bc55b215d10b5b7ee941b4acb
