Recent Shooting and Discussion

Parks34 said:
Honestly guys gun control won't do crap. Guns are illegal in Mexico and look at their crime rate. Drugs are illegal here and hell, look at the drug problem we have. Gun control isn't going to do anything but piss off people that already have that have that kill attitude


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Actually that isn’t true at all. Once again you give horrible information. Stick to the angry eyes grilles.

A common misconception is that firearms are illegal in Mexico and that no person may possess them. This belief originates due the general perception that only members of law enforcement, the armed forces, or those in armed security protection are authorized to have them. While it is true that Mexico possesses strict gun laws, where most types and calibers are reserved to military and law enforcement, the acquisition and ownership of certain firearms and ammunition remains a constitutional right to all Mexican citizens and foreign legal residents; given the requirements and conditions to exercise such right are fulfilled in accordance to the law.
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Yea the ball was dropped big time on this situation. Anyone with violent history or even threatened violence should need a psych evaluation to purchase or even be allowed to keep firearms. Until society figures out a way to control the nut jobs again.

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Maineiac said:
Yea the ball was dropped big time on this situation. Anyone with violent history or even threatened violence should need a psych evaluation to purchase or even be allowed to keep firearms. Until society figures out a way to control the nut jobs again.

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When we're the nut jobs controlled in the first place?
 
Maineiac said:
Yea the ball was dropped big time on this situation. Anyone with violent history or even threatened violence should need a psych evaluation to purchase or even be allowed to keep firearms. Until society figures out a way to control the nut jobs again.

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Exactly. For every 1 shooter there's probably 1000000 responsible gun owners. It's not the tool, it's the tool of a retard holding it.


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When all the psych wards were in use and packed. Too bad the government shut them down years ago. Too many of these shooters should have been in those wards instead of mixed in with society.

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I think folks are asking the wrong question. I’ve always operated under this mantra - when the problem is well defined, the solution becomes obvious. We’re here talking about “mass shootings” as if they are a large contributor to death in this country.

Simply put they are not. More people die from opioid overdoses. Where’s Jimmy Kimmel (or anyone else for that matter) on this?

Are we looking to stop mass shootings or are we looking to save as many lives from a senseless and perhaps preventable death?

Until we can focus on the ACTUAL problem we are really trying to solve “actions” AND “words” will be utterly useless.

You wanna save as many innocent lives as possible? Find out what’s killing the most people and start there. Here’s a hint - deaths caused by an AR-15 compared to other methods are a rounding error.


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Samuelh3 said:
I think folks are asking the wrong question. I’ve always operated under this mantra - when the problem is well defined, the solution becomes obvious. We’re here talking about “mass shootings” as if they are a large contributor to death in this country.

Simply put they are not. More people die from opioid overdoses. Where’s Jimmy Kimmel (or anyone else for that matter) on this?

Are we looking to stop mass shootings or are we looking to save as many lives from a senseless and perhaps preventable death?

Until we can focus on the ACTUAL problem we are really trying to solve “actions” AND “words” will be utterly useless.

You wanna save as many innocent lives as possible? Find out what’s killing the most people and start there. Here’s a hint - deaths caused by an AR-15 compared to other methods are a rounding error.


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You are not wrong. But we have a completely dismissive government. Nearly every rational person has mentioned all these issues.

But until you get big pharma, NRA and other corp lobbyists out of washingtons pockets, it doesn't matter what the people want. Billions will always be louder than voices.
 
JAGS said:
You are not wrong. But we have a completely dismissive government. Nearly every rational person has mentioned all these issues.

But until you get big pharma, NRA and other corp lobbyists out of washingtons pockets, it doesn't matter what the people want. Billions will always be louder than voices.
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This is true. Which is why I have a problem with people infringing on my rights under some false pretense of “it’s for the children”. It’s not for anything other than political gain. As we all know, even if we banned them all together we’d still have a “gun” problem.




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Samuelh3 said:
This is true. Which is why I have a problem with people infringing on my rights under some false pretense of “it’s for the children”. It’s not for anything other than political gain. As we all know, even if we banned them all together we’d still have a “gun” problem.




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I don't think gun control folks in Washington are getting NRA kick backs. But they are nearly all working for one cause or another.

I'm not a proponent of banning guns. Makes no sense. But other things do make sense.
 
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