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If you are seriously stocking up on firearms through private sales just to avoid being on a national registry, I sincerely hope those purchases (1) come with foil hats, (2) come with butt plugs to prevent probes during alien abductions; and (3) come with fur ball medicine in case Sasquatch takes you to a hidden cave in the forest and plays tonsil hockey with you.
 
Right, and when those M1A1's you're afraid of roll up to your front door you're gonna run upstairs and grab you're unregistered guns to fight back? :rolleyes2:

Your approach only perpetuates the problems.
 
monstrousmac said:
I do remember our Fore Fathers wrote in the Federalist Papers, that all men are fallible, money, power and greed will always corrupt. People who gain power do not want to give it up and will always fight to keep it. So, if you think there are not people in our government that want their citizens de armed. You better wake up, remember Hitler did not over throw a government, he was charismatic and people voted him in power. People willing gave up their fire arms and look where that lead them. Even a worse example is Stalin, he de armed his citizens and executed 30 million of his own people in 5 years, that is 30 million. How was he able to do this, people had no way to fight back.
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Roger that, those that forget history are doomed to repeat it.


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Sharkey said:
Those historical quotes are great and certainly reflect what the Founders believed a few hundred plus years ago based on the world in which they lived.

I guess each of us has to decide for ourselves whether we believe those same Founders could have possibly contemplated the world in which we now live, or if they would even come to the same conclusions if drafting a Constitution today. I mean, let’s be honest, the Founders did get some pretty significant shit wrong (e.g. slavery, property and voting rights, etc.) so it is not like they were omniscient.

Each of us also has to decide whether we view the Constitution as a document the application of which must adjust to remain current and relevant, or whether it is inflexible and absolute regardless of when it was written or how society changes.


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Basic right to protect yourself from fellow man and tyrannical government is not something that needs to change though. Read a history book, been an issue since the dawn of time. People haven’t changed and if anything it proves times of steadiness are cyclic over and over and round the shitty wheel of life we go. Visit a 3rd world country and don’t make the mistake of thinking the US won’t end up like that at some point. We aren’t living in the “enlightened” times folks may wish to think. If anything ten minutes on social media and anyone can see just how feral a majority of our population has become.


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Sharkey said:
If you are seriously stocking up on firearms through private sales just to avoid being on a national registry, I sincerely hope those purchases (1) come with foil hats, (2) come with butt plugs to prevent probes during alien abductions; and (3) come with fur ball medicine in case Sasquatch takes you to a hidden cave in the forest and plays tonsil hockey with you.
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The mockery seems to be the typical fallback position. In my experiences, it’s better to have it and not need it than the other way around. Who know’s what tomorrow brings? So..yeah...guess I’d better rush out and buy items 2&3 [emoji23] good lookin out! [emoji1303]


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Sharkey said:
If you are seriously stocking up on firearms through private sales just to avoid being on a national registry, I sincerely hope those purchases (1) come with foil hats, (2) come with butt plugs to prevent probes during alien abductions; and (3) come with fur ball medicine in case Sasquatch takes you to a hidden cave in the forest and plays tonsil hockey with you.
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That's not what I said I was doing. I just responded to ddays asking how i know there's not a registry now. Because there currently is private sales just goes to show there is no way the government knows which guns I do or do not own.


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UtahJK said:
That's not what I said I was doing. I just responded to ddays asking how i know there's not a registry now. Because there currently is private sales just goes to show there is no way the government knows which guns I do or do not own.


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But what is the point of having an unregistered weapon? You can't carry it. What if you use it against an intruder in your home? Look, I can see why it appeals to some people to have something no one else knows that you have, but in reality, what does having something like that accomplish? Use against a a tyrannical government? For when the black helicopters hover in your front yard and the jackbooted thugs rappel onto your lawn and come looking for your guns? C'mon, you can't realistically think that's remotely possible :crazyeyes:
 
Ddays said:
I'm not making fun, or trying to get a reaction here, but do you really, 100% believe that this is remotely possible in the US?
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Maybe not in my time, but at some point, yes. Nothing lasts forever. We have a government filled with some really old people wrapped up in greed and wheeling/dealing which seems for the most part to have forgotten what their true purpose is, constant attacks on the bill of rights and constitution, and a younger generation primed to take their places who have been given trophies for everything, undereducated (liberal arts degrees), and do not seem to have a thorough understanding of right and wrong as evidenced by their social media culture they have created. Pretty vile stuff man. So no, genuinely I don’t have a lot of hope in this countries longevity unfortunately. So with that in mind, the gun rights issue is important, maybe not to you now but for some poor saps in the future *if* shit goes sideways. As the saying goes, plan for the worst.


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Ddays said:
But what is the point of having an unregistered weapon? You can't carry it. What if you use it against an intruder in your home? Look, I can see why it appeals to some people to have something no one else knows that you have, but in reality, what does having something like that accomplish? Use against a a tyrannical government? For when the black helicopters hover in your front yard and the jackbooted thugs rappel onto your lawn and come looking for your guns? C'mon, you can't realistically think that's remotely possible :crazyeyes:
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I carry an unregistered weapon every day.

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Ddays said:
But what is the point of having an unregistered weapon? You can't carry it. What if you use it against an intruder in your home? Look, I can see why it appeals to some people to have something no one else knows that you have, but in reality, what does having something like that accomplish? Use against a a tyrannical government? For when the black helicopters hover in your front yard and the jackbooted thugs rappel onto your lawn and come looking for your guns? C'mon, you can't realistically think that's remotely possible :crazyeyes:
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If some one breaks into my house do you think i'm going to care if my gun is registered or not? What is a registered gun anyway? When you buy a gun they run a back ground check and that's all. the only serial number or any type of connection to a buyer and that gun are only kept in case the ATF audits the seller. They aren't turned in to "the government" or State. I think Massachusetts requires you send the state a spent shell for ballistics or some dumb shit. As far as I know it has never solved a single crime.
 
Spazbyt said:
If some one breaks into my house do you think i'm going to care if my gun is registered or not? What is a registered gun anyway? When you buy a gun they run a back ground check and that's all. the only serial number or any type of connection to a buyer and that gun are only kept in case the ATF audits the seller. They aren't turned in to "the government" or State. I think Massachusetts requires you send the state a spent shell for ballistics or some dumb shit. As far as I know it has never solved a single crime.
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So you are saying its legal to use an unregistered firearm for self defense in your state?
 
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UtahJK said:
I carry an unregistered weapon every day.

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My response reflected the laws in PA as if I were to carry an unregistered weapon.

Spazbyt said:
If some one breaks into my house do you think i'm going to care if my gun is registered or not?
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Of course not, but what are the repercussions if you kill someone in your house with an unregistered gun?

Spazbyt said:
What is a registered gun anyway? When you buy a gun they run a back ground check and that's all. the only serial number or any type of connection to a buyer and that gun are only kept in case the ATF audits the seller. They aren't turned in to "the government" or State. I think Massachusetts requires you send the state a spent shell for ballistics or some dumb shit. As far as I know it has never solved a single crime.
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Do you seriously believe that the serial numbers of your guns are not kept somewhere? Why file off the S/N's if that's the case?
 
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