Late to the party, but I will second checking out Craigslist for winches. I got my first winch, a Warn XD9000, used and it lived on the front of my JK for 9 years, working whenever called on. It was sold with the JK, and I would guess is still working. My latest winch, a Warn 9.5cti-s, I bought a few weeks ago off of Craigslist. The seller happens to be a shop owner in Los Angeles, and had the winch sitting in his shop, NIB, since 2017. He wanted it gone from his storeroom, so he put it up for sale for $1000.00. I looked at the add for about a week, and saw it was still there, so I called and the seller described it to me. I agreed to buy it and, since we found out he lives close to me, he brought it up to Santa Clarita for me. As an added bonus, the winch also had a wireless remote in addition to the corded one in the box. So keep checking Craigslist for those deals....they are out there!