Trying to set the record straight.
Really? This is the only reason why you signed up on my forum? You'll forgive me but go take your agenda to defend Jason Havlik somewhere else.
I find myself compelled to respond to this thread as I have received quite a few call and messages related to untruths being told about WFTW and its founder Jason.I have tried to read thru all comments and will attempt to straighten out a few facts.
And I feel compelled to respond to your attempts to make my "facts" your "untruths".
First off I am not sure how legitimacy and a 501(C)3 designation became synonymous, as evidenced by another org that has been discussed here and other sites of late.
Any time you call an organization a "non-profit", "not for profit", "charity" or "charitable organization", it NEEDS to be registered with the IRS as a 501(c)3. This way, people who know nothing about your organization can support and give to them with the assurance they aren't some kind of scam. :naw:
Next to the best of my knowledge Jason never claimed to be a 501(c)3 as that was to be the primary responsibility of each individual state chapter, we did however join with another 501 as mentioned merely to facilitate a benefit for those who wished to make a decent sized donation, since then that charity had an illness to its founder and has ceased to exist, it happens.
Since you clearly weren't around back when I busted him, he specifically claimed that he was and then when pressed, claimed to be piggy-backing on another "not-for-profit" organization called U.S. Veterans Matter. Upon further investigation, I also found that U.S. Veterans Matter could not be found on any reputable non-profit website checks including the IRS. Back in 2008, there was just him and no so called "state chapters". :naw:
WFTW started as a grassroots org to help those service members who suffered physical injuries with a mission to provide a weekend of wheeling, camping,fishing to our country`s wounded military. It was also Jason`s desire and almost completed to attend each and every event in our inaugural year of 2009 we had 22 events in 21 states with the genesis being Florida the weekend of 4-5 April 2009 not Texas which was the 4th event with Arkansas the 2nd event, and Arizona the 3rd.
How convenient, your inaugural year was "2009", about a year after I busted him for being a scammer.
As for the jeep he bought the jeep prior to WFTW beginning and paid for the majority of the parts and work done and much of it was done in Florida by a shop still there, manufacturers did give Jason a deal on alot of parts but very few items were donated... So who should get the profit ???..
That is a load of crap but I have to wonder, being that you yourself admit that parts were "donated", how exactly was he able to receive "donated" parts if he wasn't a 501(c)3? Did he claim any of these parts in his taxes and really, for all the companies that sponsored his build under the guise that it was being built for a charitable cause, I would think that he should owe them something. Of course, being that his whole point to building up his Jeep was to help wounded veterans, I would think that he'd want to give that money to them. :naw:
anyway i will be happy to answer any questions within reason and that i am able to..
You can do that on your own website.
but it is a disgrace to the wheeling (jeep) community to smack a program that has done so much for so many, there are presently 7 plus states that have been putting on WFTW events for the past six years and none have ever done anything but to work there arses off for no pay (actually costs $$$ to begin) to provide an enjoyable as well as therapeutic time for many a veteran, all while never asking for anything in return.
Please, the only disgrace here was Jason Havlik. If you guys are doing good now, more power to you. My comments were never directed toward WFTW-SA or any other legitimate 501(c)3 that might bear this name.
Most of the chapters are 501(c)3 designated and some are in the process(fun) and yet a few others have decided not to file and are able to provide the service without being a non profit but they are a not for profit.. does it really make a difference??
That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard. Clearly, none of it makes a difference to you but for me, it does.
as for busting Jason and had proof well we can discuss that in private unless you choose otherwise...
LOL!! There's nothing to discuss. I BUSTED HIM and for what I've already stated. You can believe whatever fairytale you want.
But do not bash a program that has done such greatness with so little just because you heard this or that or because they are not a 501(c)3...
You'll forgive me but, I simply have stated what ACTUALLY HAPPENED - it's called THE TRUTH. You can call what you've heard "bashing" because you weren't there when the crap hit the fan for Jason Havlik. Him not having a 501(c)3 was the least of his problems.
i could care less about a designation its what they do that counts and not many can claim the success of helping veterans than the chapters of WFTW....
Clearly you could care less and that's a shame. Having a 501(c)3 helps to provide legitimacy and fortunately, WFTW-SA understands this. In fact, I applaud them for taking the step to become an official charitable organization.
Having said all that, your account here will now be suspended per the following rule:
http://wayalife.com/faq.php?faq=wayaliferules#faq_promoteagenda
As I had already stated, I will NOT retract my statement regarding Jason Havlik or what I had personally seen back in 2008. If you guys at WFTW are doing good work "now" and actually helping people, I'm glad to hear it. With any luck, me giving your founder the grief that I did back then got his ass in gear and doing the right thing.
