WAYALIFE 2012 Moab Easter Jeep Safari Condo Crew

Noob general condo question...

It looks like the weather has a chance to be pretty good this time of year in Moab. It's too early to tell for sure, but if we want to run topless is there a place to store the top and doors at the condos? Is space limited? Do I need to put on the soft top before making the pilgrimage?
 
Alright, as luck would have it I just clicked on part 3 of the Moab videos and see there are garages. So unless I get instructed otherwise we'll make the 750 miles trip with the hardtop. :thumb:
 
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yeah, i've been following the weather as well and right now, it's unusually awesome out. i do see it's cooling off and some rain is coming but, so long as it doesn't snow like it normally does when ejs is early in the year, it should be awesome for us. regarding tops, yes, we specifically get condos with garages so that we can store our tops and doors in them :yup:
 
i should add that we do typically recommend that you come out with your soft top though but mainly because they weigh less and are a lot more forgiving on the trail. in other words, if you hit your soft top on the rocks, it'll get scratched but, if you hit your hard top, you run the risk of breaking it.
 
OK, it's time to ask the big question (this is my first Moab and first major, multi-day Jeep run) - what do I need to bring for the Jeep? I have the basics - tools, compressor, fluids, etc. But, what about parts - is there anything that I should bring beyond the basics? Your feedback is greatly appreciated. Just about a week to go!!!
 
wayoflife said:
i should add that we do typically recommend that you come out with your soft top though but mainly because they weigh less and are a lot more forgiving on the trail. in other words, if you hit your soft top on the rocks, it'll get scratched but, if you hit your hard top, you run the risk of breaking it.
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Thanks. Would have never thought to bring both.

Related question: After a quick forum search it looks like enforcement of things such as drivers side mirrors (when doorless) and mud flaps is hit or miss. What experience have you had? Do you recommend having both? Mirror will be easy, but I'll need to figure out something for the flaps.
 
DManuel said:
OK, it's time to ask the big question (this is my first Moab and first major, multi-day Jeep run) - what do I need to bring for the Jeep? I have the basics - tools, compressor, fluids, etc. But, what about parts - is there anything that I should bring beyond the basics? Your feedback is greatly appreciated. Just about a week to go!!!
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if you can bring extra parts, you should. but, if not, i wouldn't worry too much about it as parts are usually plentiful out in moab during ejs and the outpost (off road shop there) is open 24 hours a day for the week - ask me how i know :crazyeyes:

MTG said:
Thanks. Would have never thought to bring both.

Related question: After a quick forum search it looks like enforcement of things such as drivers side mirrors (when doorless) and mud flaps is hit or miss. What experience have you had? Do you recommend having both? Mirror will be easy, but I'll need to figure out something for the flaps.
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actually, i typically only take my soft top. if you pull your doors off, you will need some kind of mirror. mud flaps aren't necessary in utah.
 
Mechengineer2 said:
Eddie, did the laws get changed? Would love to ditch the mud flaps that I have for my JK. Only reason I have them is because of people getting ticketed in Moab. No laws in Colorado for mud flaps! :bleh:
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Huh, I most definitely could be wrong on this. I thought they had fender laws but not mud flaps. Guess we've just gotten lucky in the past.
 
Ask and ye shall receive:

Direct from the Utah Legislative Website-

Utah Code Section 41: Motor Vehicles

41-6a-1633. Mudguards or flaps at rear wheels of trucks, trailers, truck tractors, or altered motor vehicles -- Exemptions.
(1) (a) Except as provided in Subsection (2), when operated on a highway, the following vehicles shall be equipped with wheel covers, mudguards, flaps, or splash aprons behind the rearmost wheels to prevent, as far as practicable, the wheels from throwing dirt, water, or other materials on other vehicles:
(i) a vehicle that has been altered:
(A) from the original manufacturer's frame height; or
(B) in any other manner so that the motor vehicle's wheels may throw dirt, water, or other materials on other vehicles;
(ii) any truck with a gross vehicle weight rating of 10,500 pounds or more;
(iii) any truck tractor; and
(iv) any trailer or semitrailer with an unladen weight of 750 pounds or more.
(b) The wheel covers, mudguards, flaps, or splash aprons shall:
(i) be at least as wide as the tires they are protecting;
(ii) be directly in line with the tires; and
(iii) have a ground clearance of not more than 50% of the diameter of a rear-axle wheel, under any conditions of loading of the motor vehicle.
(2) Wheel covers, mudguards, flaps, or splash aprons are not required:
(a) if the motor vehicle, trailer, or semitrailer is designed and constructed so that the requirements of Subsection (1) are accomplished by means of fenders, body construction, or other means of enclosure; or
(b) on a vehicle operated or driven during fair weather on well-maintained, hard-surfaced roads if the motor vehicle:
(i) was made in America prior to 1935;
(ii) is registered as a vintage vehicle; or
(iii) is a custom vehicle as defined under Section 41-6a-1507.
(3) Except as provided in Subsection (2)(b), rear wheels not covered at the top by fenders, bodies, or other parts of the vehicle shall be covered at the top by protective means extending rearward at least to the center line of the rearmost axle.

Amended by Chapter 171, 2009 General Session

Interestingly, it looks like another code section makes wheel spacers illegal. I have no idea how strict they are about this stuff, especially in Moab for EJS which is a huge money maker for the city. With that said though, I could see some podunk towns outside of Moab using this week to fill their coffers.
 
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Just found another one...look at the last provision:

41-6a-1631. Prohibitions.
(1) A person may not operate on a highway a motor vehicle that is mechanically altered or changed:
(a) in any way that may under normal operation:
(i) cause the motor vehicle body or chassis to come in contact with the roadway;
(ii) expose the fuel tank to damage from collision; or
(iii) cause the wheels to come in contact with the body;
(b) in any manner that may impair the safe operation of the vehicle;
(c) so that any part of the vehicle other than tires, rims, and mudguards are less than three inches above the ground;
(d) to a frame height of more than 24 inches for a motor vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of less than 4,500 pounds;
(e) to a frame height of more than 26 inches for a motor vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of at least 4,500 pounds and less than 7,500 pounds;
(f) to a frame height of more than 28 inches for a motor vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of at least 7,500 pounds;
(g) by stacking or attaching vehicle frames (one from on top of or beneath another frame); or
(h) so that the lowest portion of the body floor is raised more than three inches above the top of the frame.
(2) If the wheel track is increased beyond the O.E.M. specification, the top 50% of the tires shall be covered by the original fenders, by rubber, or other flexible fender extenders under any loading condition.

Renumbered and Amended by Chapter 2, 2005 General Session
 
Is it a fix it ticket? or a fine? I may need to order some up some mud flaps before we go.:crazyeyes:
 
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I posted up in the four corners section of JK-forum seeing if any local members could provide any insight as to whether this law was enforced.
 
BONDSY said:
Is it a fix it ticket? or a fine? I may need to order some up some mud flaps before we go.:crazyeyes:
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well, a couple of years back, lisa from off road evolution got pulled over for missing a fender (tore off on the trail) and she got a ticket for it that ended up being a fine. needless to say, i would imagine it would be the same thing for mud flaps. we've been going out to moab for years without them and never had any problems but, i'm glad that i have some now.
 
Getting together with the boys today to do some final wrenching before the trip and get food prep assignments! :2thumbsup:

ARE YOU READY TO PAR-TAY MR. KRABBS??? :wings::honey::rock:
 
mcpuck said:
Getting together with the boys today to do some final wrenching before the trip and get food prep assignments! :2thumbsup:

ARE YOU READY TO PAR-TAY MR. KRABBS??? :wings::honey::rock:
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I am SOOO READY!!! :beer::yup::rock: The Jeep is done...The cooking is done... All that's left to do is pack!!!
 
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