Delicate Flower
Member
Technically it’s an overland with the m210/m220 set up (if that makes a difference). I did after market ARB’s with 4:88 gears. Any lead on the 38 trail grapplers? Thanks for your time Eddie.
Wanting to upgrade to Dynatrac 60/80's W/40's or Equivalent. Advice please!
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Okay, you're still set. 4.88's will be a little tall for 38's and but I don't think you'll feel too much power loss and they'll probably get you better mpg.
As far as lead on tires go, I would contact Discount Tire here on the forum.
Delicate Flower
Member
Ok, another dilemma. I don't know anything about tire offsets, etc as far as what the difference will be. I understand the more negative the further the wheel gets pushed away but that's about it. I tried searching for a visualizer so I can get an idea but haven't had any luck. What will be the difference as far as stance with these two set ups.
Current Wheel:
Black Rhino Armory
20"x12.5"
-44mm Offset
4.70 Backspacing
13.5" Patagonia
Wanted Wheel:
KMC Tank
17"x9"
-15mm Offset
4.41 Backspacing
12.5" Ridge Grappler
Current Wheel:
Black Rhino Armory
20"x12.5"
-44mm Offset
4.70 Backspacing
13.5" Patagonia
Wanted Wheel:
KMC Tank
17"x9"
-15mm Offset
4.41 Backspacing
12.5" Ridge Grappler
Delicate Flower
Member
I think this is the way I'm going to go. In talks with Disciple Off road about procuring parts. I feel like this will be a happy medium without going completely overboard for that random "what if" situation. Thank you for the referrals. Also talking with Don at discount tire. He's been tremendously helpful as well. Good stuff.
Disciple Off Road
Hooked
The KMC Tank Beadlocks are a -38 offset/3.5 backspacing so they will be pushed out more than your current wheels which should be at 4.75 backspacing.
Edit: I guess you can get the Tanks in a -15 offset if you wanted
Delicate Flower
Member
I'd rather do the -38 because I do like the wider stance. Sent you another email!
jorgelrod
Hooked
I'm going to post based on my experience with my JK, I also live in Florida and I had a ProRock44 Front and 37's I played in many of the off road parks close to FL including Windrock. Unless you are 1) Abusive on the Skinny Pedal 2) Unable to say to yourself, it's time to stop and pull cable because I have to drive it back home, the 44 and 37/38 with up to a 5.13 should be just fine. This doesn't take into account unexpected situations where a tire might get wedged between rocks or something like that, but then again, even a D60 would probably blow a U-joint in a similar situation.
As most have said, the real tipping point is going to 40's, that's when tons are a must except on SEMA builds
Delicate Flower
Member
Big thanks to @Discount Tire . I paid for my 38 ridge grapplers on Friday and they were here on Saturday. Thanks Don!
Also huge thanks to @Disciple Off Road. Jeremy was a big help, answered 100 questions and prepped an order for me. I can't wait to get this stuff for my jeep.
@wayoflife is there a good place, other than directly to manufacturer, for decals? I'd like to put a few on my jeep like Evo, Discount Tire, Nitro, Disciple, etc. Thank you for answer my PM's.
Also huge thanks to @Disciple Off Road. Jeremy was a big help, answered 100 questions and prepped an order for me. I can't wait to get this stuff for my jeep.
@wayoflife is there a good place, other than directly to manufacturer, for decals? I'd like to put a few on my jeep like Evo, Discount Tire, Nitro, Disciple, etc. Thank you for answer my PM's.
Delicate Flower
Member
Thank you for your response. I decided to stay with 38's, but build up the 44's with trusses, gussets, new knuckles, axle shafts, etc. Now it'll handle the speed bumps at the mall much, much better.
Honestly, I wouldn't bother with the trusses and gussets. Iron knuckles and shafts are a good idea.
Discount Tire
Active Member
@Delicate Flower, thank you for the shout out. It was a blast being axle to assist you with your awesome build. I can't wait to see the finished build.
Ddays
Hooked
carstickers.com
Send a pdf of whatever you want and they can make it in any size & color you want. Look online for pdf's or some manufacturers will even send you the file if you ask.
Brute
Hooked
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jwolfejt
Active Member
You don't feel trusses help beef up axle tubes ? The main issue I've seen on current stock axles is the axles bending (aside from ring gears/pinions) right around where the fad mounts, wouldn't a good truss setup help eliminate/reduce this break point ? My main reason for not upgrading to 1 ton's now is 1) no one seems to have any 2) wheels and tires would be a must (i mean why stick with 37's if your going to 1 ton axles) and that alone will add up well around $5k+ ontop of everything else. I think it would just be silly to have 1 ton's with a small lift and 37's - i'd rather focus on a better suspension setup and then when i break axles have an excuse to go that route. From what i've seen of the build of Jet you seemed to fair really well with the prorock 44 front (I haven't heard of anyone breaking rear dana 44's (aside from ring and pinions - but even that seems to happen more so on the front axle)).
I can only go off of what I have personally seen and experienced and that is, Rubicon JL/JT axles have been holding up exceptionally well. I have not seen the kind of bending that was very common on JK's. This is not to say that I haven't seen axle bends or breaks but the ones that did bend or break were on Jeep being driving by morons or were in a crash. What I have also seen is my fair share of axle that were bent DUE TO having a truss welded on. But hey, that's just me.
Docbob
New member
Dont forget your steering, pcs steering big box. If you don't want hydraulics yet, you can still get box that is ready for future add. Then look at steer smart track bars drag link and tie rods they are monsters compared to other company's. Nice build have fun with your build, must feel like a kid in candy store
A PSC steering box is definitely a good buy but Steer Smart can suck it especially after the way they came on here and unapologetically behaved the way they did.Dont for get your steering pcs steering box. If you don't want hydraulics yet, you can still get box that is ready for future add. Then look at steer smart track bars drag link and tie rods they are monsters compared to other company's. Nice build have fun with your build, must feel like a kid in candy store
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If you don't drill out the knuckle wouldn't you end up with a skinny shaft on the ball joint? At least on top of the knuckle where the drag link makes contact? CJW; Good question, the reverse taper top mount is stronger than the original joint. The no drill joint process has a large shoulder...
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OverlanderJK
Resident Smartass
Not to mention their products are trash. I don’t care if it’s bigger it it breaks. I think I have seen more after smart breaks and issues than I have with factory crap.A PSC steering box is definitely a good buy but Steer Smart can suck it especially after the way they came on here and unapologetically behaved the way they did.
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If you don't drill out the knuckle wouldn't you end up with a skinny shaft on the ball joint? At least on top of the knuckle where the drag link makes contact? CJW; Good question, the reverse taper top mount is stronger than the original joint. The no drill joint process has a large shoulder...
LOL - and then there's that. I have seen it first hand.