After thinking about it more I think I might try and buy a used one. I would like the 3.6 so don't I need to but a 2012 or newer?
My opinion looking back would be rubicon. Lower gear in the transfer case. Stock 4:10gears will get you by for a while till you re-gear for the 35s you will want. Electric disconnecting sway bar is nice option. And the lockers are always an highly tactical option. The real big weakness of the jeep in my opinion is the factory skids and transmission cross member. My first time rock crawling I hit pretty good, then taco'ed my crossmember. So reinforce your track bar axle mounts and upgrade to thicker tranny crossmember. And look into a good skid plate system. And your jeep will be hard to stop on moderate trails. If I was going to do it all over. I would buy a yuppe lease turn in rubi and save some money. Just my opinion.
If I'm not going to do a lot of serious off road use is it worth it to get the Rubicon? There's tons of everything else around here but used Rubicons are harder to come by. After reading it looks like I'll need to change gears to run 35" tires anyway.
My local dealer has a used 2014 Rubicon with 17K on it. It's silver, auto, but has 3.73 gears in it. I really wanted a white one but would consider a silver one I think. Kinda wanted 4.10 gears in it to get me buy on 35" tires for awhile. Anyway I just heard back and they said they have one they can buy at the auction. 2012 white Rubicon with 4.10 gears and 20K on it. Not sure on the price but heard the older 3.6 engines had some cylinder head issues too. What would you guys do?
The 14 is an auto and they are asking 38003 for it. Asked about what the price out the door no trade was and they gave me that story about how their prices are all no haggle...blah blah blah
After several months of kicking tires and having several sold before I could strike a deal I'm closer to buying.
2015 JKUR 43755 with the options I want and they are selling it for invoice of 40921. It's at another dealer and they are dealer trading for it and want an additional 300 for costs to get it here. Bringing the total to 41121. I offered them 40000 for it plus taxes and license etc. They came back right away and said no thanks. They again said the vehicle was priced to sell. I'm guessing the price will not change much. They seem to move these quite easily unless they have an ugly color. I also have the option to order one or buy something with different options.
After several months of kicking tires and having several sold before I could strike a deal I'm closer to buying.
2015 JKUR 43755 with the options I want and they are selling it for invoice of 40921. It's at another dealer and they are dealer trading for it and want an additional 300 for costs to get it here. Bringing the total to 41121. I offered them 40000 for it plus taxes and license etc. They came back right away and said no thanks. They again said the vehicle was priced to sell. I'm guessing the price will not change much. They seem to move these quite easily unless they have an ugly color. I also have the option to order one or buy something with different options.
It's only $1k. Have them throw in 3 years of oil changes to make up for. Are you really willing to let the jeep go for $1k?
I would ask for the oil changes and say you will pick it up at the other dealership or wave those fees.