Trackbars: OEM, TF Bushing replacement, JKS, something else? Unicorns?

wayoflife said:
LOL!! By all means, being that I did such a great job of documenting this "synergy" break, perhaps you can point me to where I can read about it. The fact that the guys from synergy would have actually helped me out is just so amazing, this work of fiction must be Pulitzer Prize winning material.



You my friend - a whole lot of BS. LOL
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The only reason you don't remember is because you were still shaken up from Matti almost kicking your ass.

Seriously, is Moab now the Twilight Zone?
 
Honestly, I think this guy is gunning for Matti's top spot for best fairytale of the year. Just like Matti almost knocked me out, this guy almost saw me break a synergy part and then almost read where I did a thorough job documenting it.
 
wayoflife said:
Clearly, he didn't follow the Teraflex instructions carefully enough the last several times. LOL
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The recent TF spin to say install error for just about every issue is quite frightening. As a newb I looked at a lot of TF stuff because it was a big name and good visibility because of their marketing.

Over time because of this forum I learned about things like quality and ride performance, etc. Ended up going a different direction, thankfully!

But being new, and had I gone TF and tackled some of the installs myself, I can all but guarantee things like install error would have been that much more worrisome, especially reading all the issues with instruction. If the instructions are bad or vague at best, how can you in turn blame install??

I honestly can't believe such a large company would continue to hide behind "install error," as TF has.


- Jason
 
JAGS said:
The recent TF spin to say install error for just about every issue is quite frightening. As a newb I looked at a lot of TF stuff because it was a big name and good visibility because of their marketing.

Over time because of this forum I learned about things like quality and ride performance, etc. Ended up going a different direction, thankfully!

But being new, and had I gone TF and tackled some of the installs myself, I can all but guarantee things like install error would have been that much more worrisome, especially reading all the issues with instruction. If the instructions are bad or vague at best, how can you in turn blame install??

I honestly can't believe such a large company would continue to hide behind "install error," as TF has.


- Jason
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They can do it because they have the support of all their fanboys. When it breaks - they'll be the first to blame you just like this guy has. What a joke.
 
wayoflife said:
They can do it because they have the support of all their fanboys. When it breaks - they'll be the first to blame you just like this guy has. What a joke.
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Being in marketing, I know all to well that every company has brand loyalist (we here call them fan boys 😉). Even terrible companies and bankrupt companies have them till the bitter end.

Getting the word out there is still the right thing. You've never said any of these products would disintegrate upon touching dirt. Just that these product have failed and to watch your control arms, brackets, carriers, mud flaps to make sure they are safe. You also said you wouldn't run them. Last time I checked, people have a choice to consider your shared thoughts....or not.

Like all brand loyalists, they see comments like these noted above as attacks on their personal character and better judgement. Quite typical. Just for most situations there aren't forums and FB pages to spread the fun.


- Jason
 
wayoflife said:
I agree, I hate incorrect accusations and being that you have NOT seen this break for yourself, YOU are the only one who can make an "accusation" here. I on the other hand can "state" what I have seen time and time again. Fact of the matter is, if this really were an install error as you seem to want to believe, there would be no reason for Teraflex to redesign their awesome track bar. :naw:



Ummm, the 23" I state is just a "starting point" as your actual ride height would ultimately determine your final length. Contrary to what you seem to think, control arm length isn't as absolute static number that everyone will need to use.



Who the hell is "WE"?



Well, either you're a moron who doesn't realize that the position of your axle will MOVE depending on how much you are loaded or unloaded as its just the nature of a solid axle with a track bar OR, your Teraflex coils are so stupid stiff that they don't compress under a load.



Never said that the wheeling you have out there isn't impressive, just that you "telling" me this is where you wheel doesn't. :naw:



Funny, for a guy who claims to have seen me broken down on Double Whammy, I don't know how you could get a detail like what I actually broke so wrong. I mean, you'd either have to have been blind or LYING about having actually been there.



You're right, you would recommend that people would buy a track bar that has been proven to break on multiple occasions and of which the manufacture TeraFlex will blame the customer for it and I am recommending that people just use their factory track bar which has proven to be very strong and FREE! :yup:
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Not worth responding, Eddie. You have no interest in factual discussions on these matters. I'm not sure what Teraflex ever did to you but it's obvious you cant have an adult discussion about their Company or products. Good luck with your little club house here.
 
SoK66 said:
Not worth responding, Eddie. You have no interest in factual discussions on these matters. I'm not sure what Teraflex ever did to you but it's obvious you cant have an adult discussion about their Company or products. Good luck with your little club house here.
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So do you have the write up for his broken synergy track bar?
 
SoK66 said:
Not worth responding, Eddie. You have no interest in factual discussions on these matters. I'm not sure what Teraflex ever did to you but it's obvious you cant have an adult discussion about their Company or products. Good luck with your little club house here.
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Man do you guys smell that the air is getting cleaner again, and the clubhouse will be just fine without you,but then again you probably won't leave and continue to come back to our clubhouse to stir the pot.

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wayoflife said:
Honestly, I think this guy is gunning for Matti's top spot for best fairytale of the year. Just like Matti almost knocked me out, this guy almost saw me break a synergy part and then almost read where I did a thorough job documenting it.
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Actually, I totally remember both of these events. You couldn't fix Moby because your SPOD stopped working so your rock lights were out. If memory serves, the whole incident started because you only had one steering stabilizer and the resulting death wobble was too much for Moby to handle. It was either that or the extreme cross caster.
 
SoK66 said:
Not worth responding, Eddie. You have no interest in factual discussions on these matters.
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In other words, you're incapable of answering any of the factual points I made in this matter because you are a sham, a guy who is all talk and nothing to back anything you say up with facts. The best you can do is regurgitate 2nd hand information and make up stories and try to pass them off as truth. You my friend are a joke.

I'm not sure what Teraflex ever did to you but it's obvious you cant have an adult discussion about their Company or products.
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And I'm not sure what TeraFlex did to you to make you the fanboy that you are but it's obvious you can't have an HONEST discussion about the very REAL problems we have seen in their products. The best you can do is tow the line and BLAME the customers for any break or failure they have, just like TeraFlex would.

As far as my relationship with TeraFlex goes, the last time we spoke, they were pissed off that they couldn't GIVE me a lift to run on my Jeep. Come to think of it, that was back in October of 2011. Yup, you got it, I flat out turned them down. I know, you'll choose to believe whatever it is you want to believe and make up stories that you can tell others but, that's the truth and I can even PROVE IT. If anything, it's more like what did I do to them to get all their fanboys to hate on me so much.

Good luck with your little club house here.
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Does that mean you're not going to show me where I can read the great story about how I broke a Synergy part and how Synergy came to help me out? You said that I did a great job of documented it all and I would just love to read a good story before going to bed. :grayno:
 
OverlanderJK said:
So do you have the write up for his broken synergy track bar?
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He said that it existed and said it on the internet so it must exist. Not like he'd just make something like that up or anything :cheesy:

Sharkey said:
Actually, I totally remember both of these events. You couldn't fix Moby because your SPOD stopped working so your rock lights were out. If memory serves, the whole incident started because you only had one steering stabilizer and the resulting death wobble was too much for Moby to handle. It was either that or the extreme cross caster.
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That's it. Again, I must be forgetful due to almost being knocked out by Matti. :crazyeyes:
 
SoK66 said:
Not worth responding, Eddie. You have no interest in factual discussions on these matters. I'm not sure what Teraflex ever did to you but it's obvious you cant have an adult discussion about their Company or products. Good luck with your little club house here.
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So you want us to ignore all evidence of MANY breaks and ONLY listen to you saying how great terabreaks actually is. Who's not wanting the facts???

Why does TF have had to do something to Eddie just because he pointed out flaws/issues with some products. He didn't say they all would break.

Our forum is great if you come here without an agenda. But you clearly had one.


- Jason
 
JAGS said:
So you want us to ignore all evidence of MANY breaks and ONLY listen to you saying how great terabreaks actually is. Who's not wanting the facts???

Why does TF have had to do something to Eddie just because he pointed out flaws/issues with some products. He didn't say they all would break.

Our forum is great if you come here without an agenda. But you clearly had one.


- Jason
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Lol, he went from "I'm going to send you home crying to your mommy, don't get me started" to "not worth responding".
 
olram30 said:
Lol, he went from "I'm going to send you home crying to your mommy, don't get me started" to "not worth responding".
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I still want to know why it's ok for a grown man to go to their mom wet. Whether it be sexual or you pissed your pants.
 
Hey Jerry, in case you missed it, the newest TeraFlex tire carrier break, the one that happened on FuriousDZ's Jeep... he had the upgraded mount and this was the NEW break that he got. Please do us all a favor and keep an eye on yours... just in case. Don't want TeraFlex BLAMING you for not following their instructions.
 
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