Torque Values….Rant

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bubbad323

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Just a minor rant before I get back to looking for the info.

Why is finding torque values so difficult? Seems this is always left out of repair videos etc. I just downloaded a Haynes manual Becusee I figure it’s about time to have one. Going to install the oil temp and coolant sensors on a new oil cooler housing. Cannot find the torque specs. The manual gives me this BS….see photo attached. Why are the torque values NOT stated? Can’t find them in the manual either. I can’t be the only one wondering why the mystery with listing a damn torque value. Let alone not stating it in a manual. Sorry for the rant. Just very frustrating. I was able to find a torque write up here which looks great. Only it’s not for 3.6 engines.
 

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bubbad323 said:
Thank you. These values listed dont seem to apply to the 3.6 engines.
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We're talking about sensors here, not control arm bolts. Typically, they are all the same and about 100-200 in lbs. Basically nothing. A good hand tight should be all you need.
 
wayoflife said:
We're talking about sensors here, not control arm bolts. Typically, they are all the same and about 100-200 in lbs. Basically nothing. A good hand tight should be all you need.
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I hear you. And agree. Unless suspension related I’m usually not concerned beyond snugging up. Just with the labor involved to get to these sensors (and with my bad luck) I’m trying to avoid having to go back in after doing all this work. I can’t grasp why the Haynes manual would state to torque to proper value and NOT include the value. Wtf lol.
 
The only thing that would have factory torque specs is a factory service manual. Unfortunately, you can no longer buy them and that really sucks. Now a days, you can only get service manual information from sources like https://www.alldata.com/us/en and you have to pay for a full or temporary subscription.
 
Being that you're looking for 3.6L specs, this link should help you.

TORQUE SPECS : JL WRANGLER Reference Guide

Whether you're doing routine maintenance or installing a new component on your Jeep JL Wrangler, it's important to tighten any bolt or nut you work on, back to its appropriate torque settings. The quick links you see below have been arranged alphabetically and by category and they will take you...
www.wayalife.com www.wayalife.com

Edit: Looks like 177 in lbs is what you're looking at.
 
wayoflife said:
Being that you're looking for 3.6L specs, this link should help you.

TORQUE SPECS : JL WRANGLER Reference Guide

Whether you're doing routine maintenance or installing a new component on your Jeep JL Wrangler, it's important to tighten any bolt or nut you work on, back to its appropriate torque settings. The quick links you see below have been arranged alphabetically and by category and they will take you...
www.wayalife.com www.wayalife.com

Edit: Looks like 177 in lbs is what you're looking at.
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Thank you. Much appreciated
 
Cooler housing, new sensors, new wiring harness and two new knock sensors replaced. The sensors on the oil cooler I just snugged up. The knock sensors I tightened to the torque spec. The coolant hose was in good shape so I left it alone. Didn’t want to deal with draining the coolant. Fingers crossed I’m done with repairs for a while.
 
wayoflife said:
The only thing that would have factory torque specs is a factory service manual. Unfortunately, you can no longer buy them and that really sucks. Now a days, you can only get service manual information from sources like https://www.alldata.com/us/en and you have to pay for a full or temporary subscription.
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Eddie beat me to it. I don’t give out torque values because I have no way to verify what I have is correct.
 
GP NOIR said:
Eddie beat me to it. I don’t give out torque values because I have no way to verify what I have is correct.
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To clarify, the values I provide in my links come directly from Jeep and for the specific models that I have them listed for. But otherwise, I can understand why manufacturers or others are hesitant to provide them.
 
Yeah I get it. I don’t really bother with torque values unless it’s truly called for. With that said, I’m just not looking to have to dig I ti the engine for something so just want to cover my bases in that respect. Getting to the cooler housing is a bitch. Let alone go the knock sensors. Thankfully all is working well and the repair was a success. Still have residual oil that has to come off the engine block and dripping on the driveway. But other than that she’s done.
 
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