Wife wants to upgrade her tires on her 2013 Sahara Unlimited from the factory 255/70R18 to Nitto Trail Grapplers 285/65R18. The Nittos are about 1 inch wider, so my question is do you think they will rub if installed on factory rims when in a full turn?
I had 285/70 duratracs on mine before the lift and they didn't rub
It's probable on the front air dam if you still have it, at a full turn and when flexing if you take your Jeep off road. So you know, a Nitto Trail Grappler of that size will measure closer to an advertised 35" tire.
Were you running Nitto Trail Grapplers and were they mounted on an 18" wheel? Every tire make of the same size measures differently and I think it would be beneficial to the OP if you were comparing apples to apples.
It's probable on the front air dam if you still have it, at a full turn and when flexing if you take your Jeep off road. So you know, a Nitto Trail Grappler of that size will measure closer to an advertised 35" tire.
Good info. Thanks.
To accommodate these bigger tires she is wanting a minimum lift because she doesn't want it to high. So I showed her a 1.5 inch leveling kit from TeraFlex. I think that and the tires will give her about 2 inch increase average.
My concern is the Jeep does have some front end rack but there are no plans to install aftermarket front bumper. The leveling kit shouldn't make the front end higher than the rear or would it? Also I would need to install new shocks or get extensions but to do it right new shocks I think Rancho but she wants the ride to remain the same. Maybe Blistens.
It depends on who you talk to. In my opinion, a Jeep with a rake looks correct and a 1.5" leveling kit make it look nose high or ass low. .75" would be a true "leveling" in my opinion but for your purposes, I might recommend just installing something like a Full Traction budget boost as it comes with 2" front spacers and 1.5" ones in the rear. If I recall, Rubicon Express has something similar too.
If there are no plans for a front bumper or winch, a 3/4" spacer would be perfect IMHO. I used a 1.5" spacer up front only and with my bumper, stinger, and winch combo I still have a SLIGHT nose down rake. Just know that by taking away that rake, you'll lose 1mpg+/- due to aerodynamics.
So I looked at the Full Traction 2" Econo Lift. When ordering from Quadratec it gives an option to order the Full Traction shocks or Bilstein 5100 shocks. My wife's Jeep is a Sahara and we are lifting it to only put bigger tires on it for the beach and her occasional dirt roads around here. My question is the factory shocks compared to the Bilsteins, what is the ride difference? Is there another shock I should consider?
Does anyone know whether or not a 285/65R18 Nitto Trail Grappler fit on the factory tire carrier? I am thinking not but thought I would ask.
Here is my 13 Sahara with stock tires and the Teraflex leveling kit. It sits even when you measure to the fender on front and back. The second pic is with the leveling kit and 285/75r18 toyo tires, measure 34" tall mounted and installed. I have a 2.5 lift going on Saturday. View attachment 61512View attachment 61513
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Get the 5100's. The FT shocks are just standard old school hydro's that will give you a substandard ride to what you have with the factory shocks. The 5100's are good monotube's that will offer a better ride. Another shock to consider are the Rancho 7000MT's as they are similar to the 5100's only more affordable. Whatever you get, I personally would recommend that you stick with more modern monotubes and steer clear of old hydros.
Being that you're keeping your factory wheels, you'll most likely need to install an adapter to make it work. You may be able to remove the rubber isolators to do it too but, if you do go this route. You really should take the time to cut them down and reinstall them so that they press firmly against the sidewall of your spare. Even if you go the adapter route, I would highly recommend that you install a set of Daystar extended isolators to do the same thing. Without them, your tire will jiggle around and over time, that will cause tailgate damage.
Here is my 13 Sahara with stock tires and the Teraflex leveling kit. It sits even when you measure to the fender on front and back. The second pic is with the leveling kit and 285/75r18 toyo tires, measure 34" tall mounted and installed. I have a 2.5 lift going on Saturday. View attachment 61512View attachment 61513
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Regarding the AEV spacer lift...I installed mine solo at thanksgiving and am happy with the results so far. Upgraded to 17" Qtec moabs and 33" km2s. This is my first time modding a rig and as long as you have access to a level driveway and a good collection of standard sockets, some elbow grease and basic mechanical know how, you're ok. I need to get back under laVerde to recheck torque to address some phantom front-end sounds (I could just be OCD'ing), but aside from that, she seems good. Can't wait to go explore some backwood trails w/ my wife and friends. To me, this was a good ($300+/-) introduction to suspension modding and learning about my rig. My girl's approval is golden (plus, she was glad the garage was emptied of the boxes accumulated over the past several months!!!) aaand it's not too high..
ps...also installed Bilstein 5100s. excellent!
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