The Pumpkin "Build"

Armydog · Jan 28, 2015

Do I need a new outer shaft or is it a wheel hub section the I need to replace?

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Help please

cozdude · Jan 28, 2015

Armydog said:
Do I need a new outer shaft or is it a wheel hub section the I need to replace? [

Help please

You need a new outer shaft and most likely a u joint. While your at it check your inner shaft ears to make sure they are not ovaled out. If so you will need a new inner as well.

Be careful driving home. When you do take your wheel off and remove the inner shaft (you can leave the outer shaft installed). Once removed plug the axle tube end with a garbage bag or something to keep fluids from leaking out or getting in.

OverlanderJK · Jan 28, 2015

cozdude said:
You need a new outer shaft and most likely a u joint. While your at it check your inner shaft ears to make sure they are not ovaled out. If so you will need a new inner as well.

Be careful driving home. When you do take your wheel off and remove the inner shaft (you can leave the outer shaft installed). Once removed plug the axle tube end with a garbage bag or something to keep fluids from leaking out or getting in.

There is no fluid in the front axle.

Armydog · Jan 29, 2015

OverlanderJK said:
There is no fluid in the front axle.

Is the seal inboard toward the differential? So I can pull the wheel, hub and outer/inner shaft. Should I replace both inner and outer to be safe? Think I will just replace it with an OEM and keeping saving for the PR44..... any suggestions on this plan? It looks fairly straightforward and not very hard, and advice on the repair? Glad this happened locally and not next week in PA.

Armydog · Jan 29, 2015

The snow bank that killed me..... Should have video later.

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Well that a pulling the guys through the field on a tube.......

cozdude · Jan 29, 2015

OverlanderJK said:
There is no fluid in the front axle.

Yea true. I had some extra gear oil in my tubes from pulling the shafts so that was prob just all it was. The plug was more for stuff getting in. Idk I didn't put it in the guy at Rausch that helped me did it lol

cozdude · Jan 29, 2015

Armydog said:
Is the seal inboard toward the differential? So I can pull the wheel, hub and outer/inner shaft. Should I replace both inner and outer to be safe? Think I will just replace it with an OEM and keeping saving for the PR44..... any suggestions on this plan? It looks fairly straightforward and not very hard, and advice on the repair? Glad this happened locally and not next week in PA.

Yes the seal is inner by the diff.

Your going to need a new u joint so when you pull it out of the inner shaft check to see if the ears are oblonged. If not then you can reuse the inner and just get a new outer and u joint.

You might be able to get an aftermarket outer stub shaft for cheaper than oem so just look around.

Armydog · Jan 29, 2015

Is it worth upgrading to a chrome-Molly shaft? If I did upgrade should I do both sides? Should I do wheel bearings at the same time? or is this a waste of money and just replace the outer stub shaft and u joint?

Armydog · Jan 29, 2015

How many splines are on the stock rubicon axles shaft? Not sure what to order and anybody have experience with the 10 factory chromoly shafts? Are they worth the coin?

EZ-E · Jan 29, 2015

Armydog said:
How many splines are on the stock rubicon axles shaft? Not sure what to order and anybody have experience with the 10 factory chromoly shafts? Are they worth the coin?

Stock TJ Front D44 are 30-Spline. And 10 Factory is a good brand from what I understand.

cozdude · Jan 29, 2015

Armydog said:
Is it worth upgrading to a chrome-Molly shaft? If I did upgrade should I do both sides? Should I do wheel bearings at the same time? or is this a waste of money and just replace the outer stub shaft and u joint?

I guess it depends on how soon your doing a pr44. If it's soonish then prob not worth the upgrade to chromoly.

If your wheel bearing or bad or have a little bit of play then yes I would replace them but that's just me.

I would just do the outer stub shaft and u joint personally since I think you said you wanna do a pr44 soonish.

OverlanderJK · Jan 29, 2015

10 factory have a ten year warranty. Also you can use them in a PR if you upgrade and get the same size locker.

cozdude · Jan 29, 2015

OverlanderJK said:
10 factory have a ten year warranty. Also you can use them in a PR if you upgrade and get the same size locker.

Does Dynatrac make a tj rubicon replacement axle like they do for the jk where you can reuse the internals? If so that's great and I would agree with you then on just upgrading to chromoly's and reusing them in the PR

OverlanderJK · Jan 29, 2015

cozdude said:
Does Dynatrac make a tj rubicon replacement axle like they do for the jk where you can reuse the internals? If so that's great and I would agree with you then on just upgrading to chromoly's and reusing them in the PR

Pretty sure they make one for TJ's. All internals I'm not sure but I think you might be able to use axle shafts. Either way I would get ten factory.

cozdude · Jan 29, 2015

OverlanderJK said:
Pretty sure they make one for TJ's. All internals I'm not sure but I think you might be able to use axle shafts. Either way I would get ten factory.

Interesting. That's something I may have to research. Yes I would agree that ten factory is what j would go with if he upgrades as it's what I did as well. They are good shafts and you can't beat the warranty

Armydog · Jan 29, 2015

cozdude said:
I guess it depends on how soon your doing a pr44. If it's soonish then prob not worth the upgrade to chromoly.

If your wheel bearing or bad or have a little bit of play then yes I would replace them but that's just me.

I would just do the outer stub shaft and u joint personally since I think you said you wanna do a pr44 soonish.

cozdude said:
Does Dynatrac make a tj rubicon replacement axle like they do for the jk where you can reuse the internals? If so that's great and I would agree with you then on just upgrading to chromoly's and reusing them in the PR

OverlanderJK said:
Pretty sure they make one for TJ's. All internals I'm not sure but I think you might be able to use axle shafts. Either way I would get ten factory.

cozdude said:
Interesting. That's something I may have to research. Yes I would agree that ten factory is what j would go with if he upgrades as it's what I did as well. They are good shafts and you can't beat the warranty

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN!!!!!!!

Just ordered TEN Factory Chromolly front axle shafts from Northridge4X4.

OEM stock Passenger side only inner and outer axle from the Stealership = $429.00
TEN Factory Chromolly BOTH sides inner and outer axle shafts from Northridge = $526.00 delivered!!!!

Can you say, "NO BRAINER"?