They told me what I wanted to hear? I simply asked them if I was going to run coilovers with their LA kit, what is the max travel CO I should look at and why? Not sure how that's them telling me what I want to hear.
Again, you asked them what is the max travel CO I should look at and why and they told you what you wanted to hear, that you would be fine with what you got. What else would they tell you being that you already have their kit. The real question that you should have asked is how would they even know? :naw:
So if I ask what the travel length of a particular shock is and I receive lengths, that's TF is selling me something? :thinking: If I wasn't getting the stated amount of travel, please explain why. Trust me I understand about mounting positions. But please explain why that shock in the OEM location isn't providing spec'd travel. I can pretty much guarantee you that I am in the rear end of my Jeep currently. Given that TF stated a 14"CO is fine with their lifts, I still don't understand how there is a problem with max travel of the EVO CO's that I have installed when combined with the TF LA.
You'll forgive me if I don't trust what you know because you don't sound like you know a whole lot about anything other than what you're sold on. As far as travel goes, you've clearly never taken ride height into account or how that might effect the amount of droop you get and you've clearly never taken bump stops into account or how that will effect the amount of stuff you have. You say you can "guarantee" me that you are getting full travel out of your rear and I'd like to cash in on it and have you prove it. I'd also like to know just how much droop you're getting (from ride height) as that's where you really start to see things go.
Please, I'd love to hear the details of the break, photos, and remediation. :thumb:
Ummm, I did, pics of your break are on the very first post. Highoctane has come in with more from his Jeep. Where are your details, pics and remediation? Oh, that's right, you can only gossip about what you heard on the street :naw:
I thanked you in our PM for reviewing my question and the pic I sent. :yup: Is there something more you wanted out of it?
Funny, I just looked and all you said was
"Teraflex is sending me the new one, I just had to cover shipping. $15." Of course, you would never have even known about their weak track bar or how to get a new one for the cost of shipping had it not been for me. No matter, I understand that you've been busy looking for a way to defend your beloved TeraFlex :naw:
Sort of like EVO did when a customer's coilover tower broke, they blamed the bumpstop install?
:cheesy: Dick Lika, yeah, I heard about his break. Did you know he used to have an EVO Lever too and that both were installed by Rebel Off Road? Not like they wouldn't have a motive to try and make EVO look bad. And, not that it matters but, EVO did try to bend over backwards to fix and replace everything, labor included on their dime but Dick never took them up on that. That's a big chunk of change they were ready to fork out and he wouldn't even of had to pay $15 for shipping. I wonder why he would turn them down? :rolleyes2:
Not exactly...but it seems I can't share my opinion or anyone else for that matter when it differs from yours... because "you know from experience".
Oh brother. You know, the facts I share are based on experience and just because that often times trumps your opinion doesn't mean that anyone here has been preventing you from sharing it anyway. :naw:
The only major products that get touted around here are EVO and that's what the vast majority of your videos are about. When a competing product is mentioned, it's usually squashed with 'Hey, that's my experience'. Not everyone is looking for Eddie's experience on every subject, thus having a community to provide input.
Last I checked, this is a free country and if you don't like what you hear here, nobody is making you listen to it. Yeah, you bet a lot of our videos feature EVO products because that's what's on our Jeeps now. In spite of what you choose to believe, that hasn't always been the case. In fact, I've been lucky enough to have installed, tested and personally run a myriad of lift kits, suspension components, of different makes and different lift heights over the past 6+ years and have documented most of it and I would hope that I would have learned something from all that by now. If you don't want to hear about what I've learned from my experiences, by all means, give TeraFlex a call and allow them to sell you more stuff.
I'd love to hear what the definition of 'fanboy' means to you.... in most cases that I've heard it used in the past 10 years, its been to describe a fanatical person standing behind a single particular brand or product. Pretty sure that doesn't describe me.
My definition is someone who gets their panties in a wad if they think someone is speaking negatively about a product they've chosen to buy. They will go out of their way to defend the company in question, to no end and attack those who had dared to speak ill about them even if it's backed up with facts, photos and proof. That pretty much describes to you to a tee.
The Teraflex lift kit just happens to be the kit I have installed. Given the vast options at this point compared to when I purchased / installed and what my friends run, I'd have a much harder decision between Rock Krawler, EVO, and GenRight. Lot's of great options out there to consider beyond that list too.
And nobody is asking you not like what you have or to not not get anything other than EVO. It's your money and you should spend it on whatever it is you want.
:cheesy: Actually I didn't buy the SkyJacker lift. The previous owner had it installed on the Jeep when I bought the Jeep from them in 2007. :yup: But thanks for the compliment on my perceived decision making ability! :thumb:
Ummm, not exactly. :naw: I was simply questioning your judgement to try and compare Skyjacker quality with other companies. Yes, they share about the same quality as TeraFlex but, that about it.
Didn't you run TF Shorts arms on Moby, then FT, now EVO? You seem to think TF is bad and stated FT is bad, so it seems you're actually ahead of me in the 'purchasing of poorly designed products' category. I mean, I wish I had that kind of money to replace lift kits every couple of years, but I don't.
You're right, I have installed, worked on and/or personally run most of the TeraFlex kits available today. The same can be said about Full-Traction, Currie, Rock Krawler, Rubicon Express, Rough Country, Clayton and more. This is why I have experience and you just have opinions. Having said that, I never said that TeraFlex or Full Traction was "bad" - just that I haven't seen them handle coil overs very well. But, you can believe what you want to believe.
...and I agree. I take blame for missing the weld that was coming off the frame.
For the record, you didn't even see it after it broke. I had to point it out to you. :naw:
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