Someone just tried to assassinate Trump

OverlanderJK said:
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The rest of the story.

Like most conspiracies there are always fragments of truth but it’s not the whole truth.

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What to know about inspections of Iran's nuclear program by the IAEA ahead of a key board vote

Iran’s nuclear program remains a top focus for inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency, particularly as any possible deal between Tehran and the United States over the program would likely rely on the agency long known as the United Nations’ nuclear watchdog.
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TexasProud said:
Iran was NOT allowing inspections, some people should do their own research. Any country that enriches uranium to 60% is preparing to build a nuclear weapon, there is NO other reason, no other use or purpose for it.
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Anyone that is honest with themselves (many are not) know Iran has been enriching Uranium to put themselves on the precipice of a nuclear weapon. Whether they were supposedly weeks away or a couple of years, it doesn't really matter. The Iranian government wants nuclear "protection". The Israelis opened a window of opportunity to damage Iranian efforts. Trump took it. I do not want a boots on the ground war. But, strategic efforts to stop another country gaining atomic weapons is a fundamental good even if it feels dirty at times.
 
semicolon said:
The peace loving leadership of Iran has such an established history of promoting harmony in the region and abiding by the treaties it has signed in the past. Gonna pass on this Kool-Aid.
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Well actually it was the US that cancelled the agreement. Not saying Iran is a good guy here but this whole thing stinks IMO. What are they distracting us from? What is the blob end goal?
 
OverlanderJK said:
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Sorry, but that guy does not know what he is talking about.

In 2015 when Iran signed the JCPOA agreement, they did allow access to SOME of their nuclear facilities. They were not allowing all-access inspections. The only thing the IAEA really had access to was their civilian stations. And they claimed Fordow was a research facility and not an enrichment facility.

After the US pulled out of the JCPOA in 2018, IAEA had very limited access for inspections.

And in 2023, the IAEA detected uranium particles enriched up to 83.7% pure, or only 6.3% from pure weapon-grade enrichment. Iran tried to say it was due to "unintended fluctuations."

Yeah, no it was not unintended. They messed up and lied about it.
 
Gossamer JL said:
Sorry, but that guy does not know what he is talking about.

In 2015 when Iran signed the JCPOA agreement, they did allow access to SOME of their nuclear facilities. They were not allowing all-access inspections. The only thing the IAEA really had access to was their civilian stations. And they claimed Fordow was a research facility and not an enrichment facility.

After the US pulled out of the JCPOA in 2018, IAEA had very limited access for inspections.

And in 2023, the IAEA detected uranium particles enriched up to 83.7% pure, or only 6.3% from pure weapon-grade enrichment. Iran tried to say it was due to "unintended fluctuations."

Yeah, no it was not unintended. They messed up and lied about it.
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How does the IAEA detect uranium particles without being there? Or was this really Iran's error during a "limited access" scheduled inspection? If one zooms in close enough it seems likely to find a particle which appears highly enriched, even the others do not.

It is difficult to imagine Iran being successful at building a WW2-class atom bomb without a lot of testing and if they are using their own design. Any testing would surely be noticed!
 
NPC 6060⁸42 said:
Well actually it was the US that cancelled the agreement. Not saying Iran is a good guy here but this whole thing stinks IMO. What are they distracting us from? What is the blob end goal?
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As I was typing my reply, I realized that it is long. So if you do not read it all, I understand. I also apologize that it is a longer read than most posts. And yes, AI was used to simplify what I had originally typed and to make it flow better, but the overall message is mine.



You're right, the US pulled out of the JCPOA in 2018. The Trump administration believed the deal had serious flaws: temporary restrictions (sunset clauses), no coverage of Iran’s missile programs or proxy activity, weak inspection access to military sites, and fears that sanctions relief was funding bad actors. The idea behind the withdrawal was to apply pressure and push for a more comprehensive deal—which never came about. And it didn’t help that when Biden came into office, his administration appeared more inclined toward engagement and concessions, which many saw as appeasement rather than accountability. That shift arguably gave Iran more breathing room to accelerate its enrichment and dodge real scrutiny.

As for “what are they distracting us from?” Who really knows. But maybe there is no distractions being made? Could there be political motivations behind timing or media focus? Possibly. But in this case, the crisis is real: Iran’s enrichment levels are way up, IAEA access has been cut off, and sites have been struck. That’s not smoke and mirrors, that’s a genuine escalation.

When it comes to Iran, we've got to remember, they’ve consistently called for the destruction of Israel and labeled the US as “the Great Satan.” Their actions are rooted in ideology as much as strategy. Some in their leadership see global upheaval—especially against the U.S. and Israel—as a path to fulfilling religious prophecy.

So, what’s the endgame? Simple: don’t let Iran get a nuclear weapon.

It’s not about distraction or theater. It’s about preventing a regime that openly calls for the destruction of Israel and the U.S. from gaining the most destructive weapon on earth. And this isn’t just geopolitical maneuvering—it’s tied deeply to their ideology. Some in Iran’s leadership genuinely believe that global chaos and confrontation with “the Great Satan” (America) and the “Zionist regime” (Israel) will set the stage for the return of their messianic figure.

That’s not a theory—it’s what they’ve said, consistently, for years. So the strikes, the pressure, even the withdrawal from the deal—it’s all part of a strategy to delay or deny that nuclear capability. Whether you agree with the tactics or not, the objective is clear: don’t let the most extreme regime in the region cross that line.
 
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bobfriesenhahn said:
How does the IAEA detect uranium particles without being there? Or was this really Iran's error during a "limited access" scheduled inspection? If one zooms in close enough it seems likely to find a particle which appears highly enriched, even the others do not.

It is difficult to imagine Iran being successful at building a WW2-class atom bomb without a lot of testing and if they are using their own design. Any testing would surely be noticed!
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Iran does allow the IAEA to be around. However, the IAEA only detects enriched uranium through environmental sampling during physical inspections. not remotely. Inspectors use surface swipes inside facilities and analyze them in ultra-sensitive labs that can pick up even microscopic traces. They found enriched uranium to 83.7% during a scheduled, albeit very limited, inspection.

Iran claimed it was an “accidental fluctuation,” but inspectors noted that centrifuges had been reconfigured without notice, which raised suspicions. So, while it may not have been sustained enrichment to weapons-grade levels, it definitely caught international attention.

As for bomb development, you’re spot on. Building a first-gen nuclear weapon usually requires live testing, and that kind of test would almost certainly be picked up by global monitoring systems. HOWEVER, with enough highly enriched uranium and access to modern simulations or outside designs, a country could theoretically assemble a CRUDE device without ever testing it.
 
Gossamer JL said:
As I was typing my reply, I realized that it is long. So if you do not read it all, I understand. I also apologize that it is a longer read than most posts. And yes, AI was used to simplify what I had originally typed and to make it flow better, but the overall message is mine.



You're right, the US pulled out of the JCPOA in 2018. The Trump administration believed the deal had serious flaws: temporary restrictions (sunset clauses), no coverage of Iran’s missile programs or proxy activity, weak inspection access to military sites, and fears that sanctions relief was funding bad actors. The idea behind the withdrawal was to apply pressure and push for a more comprehensive deal—which never came about. And it didn’t help that when Biden came into office, his administration appeared more inclined toward engagement and concessions, which many saw as appeasement rather than accountability. That shift arguably gave Iran more breathing room to accelerate its enrichment and dodge real scrutiny.

As for “what are they distracting us from?” Who really knows. But maybe there is no distractions being made? Could there be political motivations behind timing or media focus? Possibly. But in this case, the crisis is real: Iran’s enrichment levels are way up, IAEA access has been cut off, and sites have been struck. That’s not smoke and mirrors, that’s a genuine escalation.

When it comes to Iran, we've got to remember, they’ve consistently called for the destruction of Israel and labeled the US as “the Great Satan.” Their actions are rooted in ideology as much as strategy. Some in their leadership see global upheaval—especially against the U.S. and Israel—as a path to fulfilling religious prophecy.

So, what’s the endgame? Simple: don’t let Iran get a nuclear weapon.

It’s not about distraction or theater. It’s about preventing a regime that openly calls for the destruction of Israel and the U.S. from gaining the most destructive weapon on earth. And this isn’t just geopolitical maneuvering—it’s tied deeply to their ideology. Some in Iran’s leadership genuinely believe that global chaos and confrontation with “the Great Satan” (America) and the “Zionist regime” (Israel) will set the stage for the return of their messianic figure.

That’s not a theory—it’s what they’ve said, consistently, for years. So the strikes, the pressure, even the withdrawal from the deal—it’s all part of a strategy to delay or deny that nuclear capability. Whether you agree with the tactics or not, the objective is clear: don’t let the most extreme regime in the region cross that line.
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You lost me at "AI was used"
 
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