I've never called anyone a name here so yes, it's all new to me. Not offended by it, just commented on what you said."duh dumbass" the only reason I said you took the bypasses is because you ran the rockin rubi and it was stated the bypasses would be taken. I can tell you the trail is much better then reading this thread especially if you do run the obstacles, we had guys run all of them and not break. I think you do add a lot here, I get a lot of laughs from you, both good and some i just never get! Wrench or silver spoon you say? Neither, nobody has ever given me anything, I worked for my first car, all of it and when it broke I had to learn how to fix it or walk so that's where it started, it just happened to be on an old CJ. I think that's great you contribute that's what makes great people and the world go round. And once again I've never called or have a special title of NorCalians. Still lost on that one. I hate to break to and try and wheel pick a line where I won't break, doesn't always work out. Right now we are using the jeep as our daily driver until we get our house paid off. A fire road sounds great. Honestly you can break there too. As long as I'm in the jeep I'm happy even if its in the mall parking lot or a winery....