According to The Google, it is possible to roll-start a manual transmission equipped with push-button start. Maybe you all knew this already, but it was news to me. There is a way to depress the push-button that replicates the "on" position of a key-ignition, and then you can roll-start your vehicle just as if it were a key-ignition.
JL - 4 things I don't like
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TLife
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The only problem is that factory LEDs are an $895 option on the JL. Yes, it comes with LED fogs and tails, but it’s still a bit spendy when compared to JK aftermarket ones.
If the integrated headlights are anything like what comes on the Renegade and I do think they are, you should just be able to replace the bulbs with LED's. I did this on my Renegade it only cost something like $80. I should note that the difference the LED bulbs made was significant too.
13_gecko_rubi
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Yes you can, I tested it last week. When u stall the dash actually tells u to do it
EDIT: sorry I was confusing roll start with the feature where u put it in first and start without pressing clutch so the jeep starts rolling as it’s starting. It still does that. I bet many folks don’t even know JK does that. I didn’t try roll starting it but u can put it in run just like if u had a key so shouldn’t be issue.
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13_gecko_rubi
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You will find the JL halogen lamps are very close to the renegade. Very....
The halogens work much better than the jk as they are much larger and deeper so way better reflector. The new LEDs imo perform way better than any JK led ive ever seen.
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13_gecko_rubi
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Go price out JW headlamps, fogs and taillamps and see how it compares. I bet you find the factory option is cheaper. If you just wanted headlamps you are right. And you should be able to do exactly like Eddie said on his Renegade.
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notnalc68
That dude from Mississippi
The halogens on the Renny are much better than JK halogens, IMO, so that should be an improvement.
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I assumed as much but I'm glad to hear you confirm it. Sounds like an LED headlight upgrade will be super easy and cheap to do. That being said, like you, I still think the LED package is a good deal and I'm happy I went with it. :yup:
I totally agree. That being said, upgrading the bulbs to LED makes them that much better. At least, they did for me on my Renegade. :yup:
notnalc68
That dude from Mississippi
I totally agree. That being said, upgrading the bulbs to LED makes them that much better. At least, they did for me on my Renegade. :yup:
Oh yeah. There’s no comparison between LED and halogen. It’s literally like night and day.
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TLife
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Arrcherr
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This^^^^ the 2017 jk LED headlights and fogs are fantastic. A world of difference from my 12s headlights!
justin mazzon
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Definitely don't like engine push start button. If you lose the electronic key on my car it's like $275.00 to replace. Is everyone so lazy they can't put a key in to start there car?
Also doesn't look like they upgraded the auto sway bar disconnect.
Also doesn't look like they upgraded the auto sway bar disconnect.
Ddays
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You're correct in that they are not cheap, but Its over $100 to replace a lot of the chip keys as well. That's without factoring in the programming fee. Its not laziness, its convenience. Once you have one there's no more fumbling around for your keys while you have an armload of something, or like my Jeep, trying to fit the key in the lock. Just put your hand on the door handle and it unlocks. Jump in and push the button and you're on you're way. Pretty sweet and yes, I am spoiled by them now.
Yeah, I'm with you here. After having push button start on my Renegade, I kinda got used to it and now look forward to having it on my new JL :yup:
Oh, and yes, I did have one of the chipped keys for Rubicat loose it's memory and that left me stranded. To add insult to injury, it wasn't cheap to get it replaced.
webejeepin
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Wonder if the JLs transfercase shift cable has the cheapie plastic eyelet bushings that dry out, crack, and crumble? Not sure which is more fun to change....At the t case or under the centre console.
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duktrx
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Not to mention heated truck lights don't ice over [emoji300]
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Tanktitan
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One of the things that you have to love about the jeep community is that they find solutions to problems and enhancements to factory. I’m wondering if you could just replace that portion of the axle with a solid shaft, if this becomes a problem?
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If I could guess, Dynatrac already has a solution for this and it'll be one of the first thing people buy kind of like how people used to buy axle c gussets :crazyeyes:
Tanktitan
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Over the years I have bought thousands of pieces of heavy equipment used in harsh environments. Many of these have been new designs. The first thing I ask of the engineers with a new design is to show me the finite element analysis. I ask them to show me where is it going to break first. The FEA shows where the stress points are. It would be nice if FCA would published the FEA on this. It is certainly possible for this area to be built stronger than the axle itself. If people are concerned, they should step up.
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