Front XD60 Order: Missing anything before placing order?

tgoss said:
I mean, you made this thread 2 months ago.... why not just save the slightest bit more to get the fully loaded XD60? Trust me dude I have a feeling you'll regret not waiting a little longer.

I wanted to jump off a bridge when I picked up my axles and saw that axle fully assembled. Makes my new set look like twigs.
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I've been going back and forth in this. I'm still unsure if the upgrade to 1550's (compared to the 1480's) are worth the $1500. I usually get the best that I can within reason and an XD60 with the 1480s seem to be a great medium, I could be swayed also but I've tried to educate myself on the 1550's and am not sold on why I need them,
 
Also, Dynatrac said that Mel uses the XD60 with 1480's with the DTD (in a 68.5" width) because of an mounting issue. He couldn't go further into detail about the issue. If the DTD is what I'll be going with, might be another reason to go with the 1480's. Curious what the issue might be though.
 
mastrcruse said:
Also, Dynatrac said that Mel uses the XD60 with 1480's with the DTD (in a 68.5" width) because of an mounting issue. He couldn't go further into detail about the issue. If the DTD is what I'll be going with, might be another reason to go with the 1480's. Curious what the issue might be though.
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I'm not sure if you'll go with the evo high steer, but if you wanted that the 1480's would be the way way to go. I think its a good set up with the ram connecting to the knuckle.


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jeffj said:
I'm not sure if you'll go with the evo high steer, but if you wanted that the 1480's would be the way way to go. I think its a good set up with the ram connecting to the knuckle.


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Thanks!

So here are the things that I should potentially add.

Thicker tubing (just because it's $99)
Dynatrac Ball joints
Ram skid plate.


This is on the build sheet.

Is this not what I need for steering? What will high steer provide vs. this?
Steering Assembly Kit, Cross-Over, Dynatrac JK XD60 Front, Includes Tie Rod Assembly, Machined Billet RH Steering Arm, Mounting Hardware Kit
 
mastrcruse said:
Thanks!

So here are the things that I should potentially add.

Thicker tubing (just because it's $99)
Dynatrac Ball joints
Ram skid plate.


This is on the build sheet.

Is this not what I need for steering? What will high steer provide vs. this?
Steering Assembly Kit, Cross-Over, Dynatrac JK XD60 Front, Includes Tie Rod Assembly, Machined Billet RH Steering Arm, Mounting Hardware Kit
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This might be what I'm talking about. Is that the evo skid and does the ram connect to the knuckle? I'm not sure what the RH steering arms are, if they are the are on top of the knuckle then they are what I was talking about, I thought dynatrac made those.


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So after talking with y'all and several locals this is what I'm going to check on tomorrow...

XD60 w/ 1480 ends
5.38
ARB
71" wide
Extreme tubing
Big brakes
Dynatrac hubs
Dynatrac ball joints
High steer (not sure what they have to offer so any opinions would be appreciated)

Anything else I should consider?
 
mastrcruse said:
So after talking with y'all and several locals this is what I'm going to check on tomorrow...

XD60 w/ 1480 ends
5.38
ARB
71" wide
Extreme tubing
Big brakes
Dynatrac hubs
Dynatrac ball joints
High steer (not sure what they have to offer so any opinions would be appreciated)

Anything else I should consider?
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I think dynatrac has the high steer arms and the evo high steer kit goes with it.
 
Edit... sorry Jeff, no idea why I quoted your post.

You'll have to purchase the high steer arms from dynatrac, they are additional, and then purchase the high steer kit from Evo which includes the tie rod, drag link and ram skid....

Then you'll need to purchase Evo's steering lines... and make sure you have an 8" stroke ram.

All in all to run evo hi - steer it's another $2200 investment, roughly.
 
mastrcruse said:
Also, Dynatrac said that Mel uses the XD60 with 1480's with the DTD (in a 68.5" width) because of an mounting issue. He couldn't go further into detail about the issue. If the DTD is what I'll be going with, might be another reason to go with the 1480's. Curious what the issue might be though.
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I think Eddie explained it pretty well in his write up, but the bypass tubes were in the way and they had to be rotated. Can be done, but probably a custom setup for now.

tgoss said:
You'll have to purchase the high steer arms from dynatrac, they are additional, and then purchase the high steer kit from Evo which includes the tie rod, drag link and ram skid....

Then you'll need to purchase Evo's steering lines... and make sure you have an 8" stroke ram.

All in all to run evo hi - steer it's another $2200 investment, roughly.
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Did you notch your frame for the hi steer or no?
 
JK_Dave said:
I think Eddie explained it pretty well in his write up, but the bypass tubes were in the way and they had to be rotated. Can be done, but probably a custom setup for now.



Did you notch your frame for the hi steer or no?
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I haven't found that I've needed to yet. I still have yet to find a place that will fully allow my front right to stuff and the left to fully droop. It does make contact but hasn't limited any articulation if that makes sense. Signs right now point to me never getting it done as the cost justification for the .25" of lost uptravel doesn't add up. Time will tell though.
 
JK_Dave said:
I think Eddie explained it pretty well in his write up, but the bypass tubes were in the way and they had to be rotated. Can be done, but probably a custom setup for now.



Did you notch your frame for the hi steer or no?
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Eddie said it wasn't really necessary to notch the frame. He said Mell did because of the hard hits when he's desert racing. He said he didn't have an issue with Moby and I really haven't either, it has rubbed but no big deal.


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Alright, so the final build sheet.

XD60 w/ 1480 wheel ends
ARB
5.38
Xtreme Duty axle tubing
4340 inner and outer Chromoly Axle Shafts
ProSteer Ball Joints
Big Brake Package

Wasn't going to go to $10k for the axle so I opted out of the Dynaloc for now. Can add later if I want to, however, the axle already comes with the stubby hub kit and I'll be running a Trail Ready 3.5 BS wheel so I don't expect that be hanging out of the wheel.
 
JK_Dave said:
I think Eddie explained it pretty well in his write up, but the bypass tubes were in the way and they had to be rotated. Can be done, but probably a custom setup for now.



Did you notch your frame for the hi steer or no?
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It looks like the bypass tubes needed to be changed even with the 72.5" axle. 68.5", 1550, with even 3.5" backspaced wheels doesn't provide enough room for the DTD. There is less room to mount DTD brackets with the 68.5" with 1550 than a stock D44. Dynatrac said going over 68.5" is considered custom and adds a ton of money onto the axle.
 
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mastrcruse said:
So after talking with y'all and several locals this is what I'm going to check on tomorrow...

XD60 w/ 1480 ends
5.38
ARB
71" wide
Extreme tubing
Big brakes
Dynatrac hubs
Dynatrac ball joints
High steer (not sure what they have to offer so any opinions would be appreciated)

Anything else I should consider?
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Why are you going with 1480 ends and not the 1550's?
 
SDG said:
Trying to keep it under 10k?
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You have to go wide for a coilover over setup like the DTD. Going wider is a custom axle, kinda like the 72.50 one Eddie has, and it adds a TON of money. It isn't a standard option. The space issue was confirmed with Evo. Another interesting this is the XD60 with 1550 uses 1/2 ton brakes and the std XD60 and PR60 use 1-ton brakes (with an option of the big brake kit).

Anyone seen a 68.5" XD60 with 1550 running DTD?

It would actually be cheaper to go with the 1550 setup than what I have listed ($9400 to $9600), since most of the upgrades are included and there is no big brake option. The issue is the space.
 
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