Be careful with that. If you ever get into a front end collision, and sustain injuries that you want the insurance companies to pay for, their investigators can deny the claim. If you are going to cut it off, you should have a very good reason to do so.
I actually think this is a good solution. Found a site that sells tons and tons of plastic nuts and bolts (out of different materials) and think they will definitely have what I need. The bushwackers are light enough where I think it won't cause an issue for daily driving, only an impact insurance policy. I don't think I'd use these with steel fenders.
Considering my mother was the attorney and I was helping her with everything technical Id say I have experience in this but you can go ahead and cut your bar off. No sweat off my back, I could care less but will laugh when the insurance company denies you a 150k medical bill.
Flat fenders won't be blamed for any injuries because the stocks are plastics as well and are held by plastic clips. Removing anything that has to do with "strength" or "crash related" items can be used against you in a claim. Claim denials can happen for a slew of reasons and it's in everyone's policy. Adding items (like steel grab handles) can also be used to deny a claim if say you were injured in an accident and had a head injury from it.
So you don't have anything in your policy to support your post? If you did it might be enlightening. Absent some support it sounds like the sky is falling.
Look, if you are gonna troll, then there is no point of discussing anything. You really think in your policy it will state "if you cut out the bumper support we will not cover any claims?" I don't really know why this is an argument. Clearly you don't believe me, fine. Look it up for yourself. Call your insurance carrier and ask them if you remove your bumper support will they possibly deny claims? I merely posted that people are aware of this and act accordingly. I'm not selling anything here. You are arguing for the sake of arguing. Grab your own insurance policy and read their 50 pages of clauses for claim denials.
I'd be interested in if any of the Jeeps on the JKX had their crash bars removed?
I'd be interested in if any of the Jeeps on the JKX had their crash bars removed?
Troll? I am just asking if you have anything to substantiate your statement. I am curious. While it probably doesn't state "if you cut out the bumper support we will not cover any claims" I didn't ask you to demonstrate that. I simply asked if you share the text of your insurance policy that addresses crash bar removal and flat fenders. There might be something in there about modifications to the frame or safety gear. That seams reasonable. What do you have?
You can't keep posting messages that attempt to scare people out of modifying their Jeep because their insurance claims will be denied and then offer nothing to support your case. Do you have first hand information?
I guess I should have read this thread before I took my hardtop off...
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That flimsy piece of metal hanging down and held on by a thin little weld is off mine, and was off during the 2012 JKX.I replaced it with a big ass steel bumber though.
Things one may learn from this thread...
1) insurance companies will try to deny your claim any way they can
2) you need to know your rights and be willing to fight back
3) you don't need to be an attorney to do #2
4) any attorney that lives in NYC and only charges $300/hr is probably a shitty attorney and will not be of any use anyway. :cheesy:
Considering my mother was the attorney and I was helping her with everything technical Id say I have experience in this but you can go ahead and cut your bar off. No sweat off my back, I could care less but will laugh when the insurance company denies you a 150k medical bill.
My bar has been cut off for a while an replaced with something a million times stronger. But thanks for your concern. :thumb:
In all fairness, I was addressing the OPs question. As far as you are concerned, since you have a stronger replacement they wouldn't really have a leg to stand on to deny your claim.
In all fairness, I was addressing the OPs question. As far as you are concerned, since you have a stronger replacement they wouldn't really have a leg to stand on to deny your claim.
And for the record, the $300 an hour I was talking about a collision expert.