got a second hand update on the jeep. Apparently, they were out by themselves at night going down the trail from ck towards lake pleasant. shortly after they passed the Orobelle mine the trail turns to a single wide shelf road that switchbacks along the side of the canyon. well alittle to much speed around one of the tighter turns and they found themselves at the bottom. From what I read, they walked back up trail to Crown King to get help. 2014 fully loaded rubi just had lift tires put on. guess it wasn't even a month old. There is a recovery group going out today to pull it up and get it off the trail.