Are You Happy with Your EVO Bolt-On Coil Over Springs?
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OverlanderJK
Resident Smartass
What does eclik or live valve have to do with the poll in this thread?
LOL - calm down cowboy, no need to get your panties in a bunch over a whole not of nothing. I realize you're a fanboy of your e-clicks and that cool but if you slow down a bit and read what I said more carefully, you'll see that I specifically used the word "MOST" and in caps so that normal people would understand that I'm not referring to "all" adjustable shocks. Clearly, the e-clicks are an entirely different ball of wax if only because they're computer controlled and not just a simple knob that you can turn and they come with a price tag to match as much. In fact, I personally wouldn't even call them "adjustable" being that they're always making adjustments for you.
That said, for a guy who seems to be over the moon on them, may I remind you that you are the one who was complaining about your ride and that it only seemed "better" when you set it to a "firmer" setting. Just saying.
Sharkey
Word Ninja
Here comes the āIām a baddassā attitude.Try to follow and then say that
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Mike Pierson
Hooked
I bought the little knobs. Lol The value is giving friends the opportunity to troll you when youāre not looking. Priceless.
So that it isn't missed, I am not a hater or adjustable shocks and I was not trying to talk smack about e-click or live valving. I simply provided an option regarding a question that cloudpump asked and I should note, reluctantly knowing that fanboys tend to go out of their way to read into what I say and get butthurt over it.
biosyn
Caught the Bug
I think the problem here is that everyone is comparing an active suspension to an adjustable shock. What SDi and Fox are doing is a far cry from the little knob that people may or may not find useful. The system will actively adjust compression rates give set parameters from the user and the information gathered from the array of sensors and the vehicle's own computer. A more proper comparison would be and active suspension to a bypass shock. The initial question from FastEddie760 was regarding the coilover springs. You could run it on a firmer setting but then you are restricting the full capability of the system and limiting the range of compression adjustments its able to do. The active valve system on the e-Click reservoir can only add compression and is subject to the initial valving of the shock, or in this case an EVO Spec King Coilover.
It's expensive yes, but it's kind of a bargain when you look at it's capability next to its competitor. If you are looking at running a divorced coil set up, the closest shock is the Fox 3.0 Internal Bypass which is usually around $6k for the set. Where a traditional bypass shock will only change compression rates when it hits that bumpzone, an active shock can change its compression rates at ANY point in the shock stroke. And those looking to bomb the desert and hit the whoops typically need to run hydraulic bumps, the e-Click has a built in bumpzone in the shockbody to eliminate the need to run one. And while $4,600 is a nice chunk of change, it's still thousands less than running conventional bypass shocks and hydraulic bumps.
It's expensive yes, but it's kind of a bargain when you look at it's capability next to its competitor. If you are looking at running a divorced coil set up, the closest shock is the Fox 3.0 Internal Bypass which is usually around $6k for the set. Where a traditional bypass shock will only change compression rates when it hits that bumpzone, an active shock can change its compression rates at ANY point in the shock stroke. And those looking to bomb the desert and hit the whoops typically need to run hydraulic bumps, the e-Click has a built in bumpzone in the shockbody to eliminate the need to run one. And while $4,600 is a nice chunk of change, it's still thousands less than running conventional bypass shocks and hydraulic bumps.
FastEddie760
New member
Cowboy? I'm just saying if someone thinks their typical suspension lift is as good as active suspension, lets play follow the leader. Not being a smartass or a tough guy, just someone who knows the difference and willing to prove how much better it is. And I'm not a "FAN BOY", just a very satisfied customer. So satisfied I put them on my EVO 14" coilovers.
My initial question wasn't regarding the stiffness of the shock valving, but more of a dual rate coil setup. I have no experience running coilovers, so I'm asking questions and learning. And my ride is "better" when I set it them to a "firmer" setting. Which in fact does "help" the issues for the soft/ wrong coil spring rates, but it is not a fix for a properly set up dual rate spring.
In the end, the spring rates EVO provides seem to not work on very many builds. I would love to add higher rates to the rear, but then I would have a 6"+ lift. With that said, I'm lucky I have the e-clik system that I can adjust the crappy springs and allow them to work well.
Sorry this turned into a active valving topic and went off topic regarding EVOs crappy spring rates.
Ed
Everyone? I think the problem here is that with the exception of FastEddie760, NOBODY CARES.
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WJCO
Meme King
I just realized this thread is like ten years old lol.
LOL - why you keep on trying to justify your purchase on this thread and as if someone is questioning your manhood, is really beyond me. Maybe you should go lie down for a bit.
Hmm, let's see - very "satisfied customer" trying again and again to proclaim the virtues of what he chose to buy, on an internet forum thread that has nothing to do with said purchase or that anyone even asked about and while declaring he's "not a fanboy", is clearly not a fanboy
So, you no longer run a front sway bar because your awesome live valving eliminates the need for it but putting them on a firmer setting is somehow not a fix for whatever your feeling in your ride. Got it
And clearly, you've come to this conclusion based on your "no experience" running coilovers - awesome. Good thing you have your e-click system that is "not a fix" for things.
But the one guy who feels the need to keep justifying the cost of something he chose to buy on this crusty old thread is NOT a fanboy
JT@623
Hooked
And, again, I am NOT talking smack about live valving. I personally think the technology is amazing just like traction control and ABS. Me personally, I'd rather not have any of it. Maybe it's just me but when it comes to fancy electronic and off roading, it's all great until it isn't. I don't have an Ultra4 race rig that gets torn down and rebuilt before every race or have a pit crew to work on things if they go wrong and In my limited experience doing this Jeep thing, going wrong happens more times than I'd prefer.
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As if coilovers aren't expensive enough, yes, it can be done and clearly, those who do it need to make sure that everyone on the internet knows just how awesome it is, just like crossfit or being a vegan
biosyn
Caught the Bug
They make a universal kit that you can use on any shock that has a remote reservoir.
jeeeep
Hooked
I stand with Mike and the knobs (#NOHOMO)I bought the little knobs. Lol The value is giving friends the opportunity to troll you when youāre not looking. Priceless.
Long live the red ... adjusters!