Account Delete

'18 WIllysW said:
Probably because I _like_ this forum. I found the response to this thread surprisingly out of touch when it came to how accounts were handled (nobdeletions, etc).

I'd rather bring this up and maybe someone can address it, before it becomes a problem.
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Again, you seem to be conflating personal information with public information. Nobody ever said that the “back office” personal information isn’t deleted if applicable law required as much. That’s not what people are talking about when they get butthurt and demand their posts and account be deleted. They want public evidence of participation to be erased. Applicable law does not require such erasure.


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'18 WIllysW said:
https://www.gdpreu.org/the-regulation/who-must-comply/
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An excerpt from your link above :

This second category likely renders most global businesses liable. If a firm has any European presence, it would need to either become compliant for its entire user base, or become capable of identifying EU residents within its user base and adhering to GDPR rules for that group only. However, it is expensive and likely impractical to build and maintain two parallel systems and policies for EU residents and non-EU residents, and incorrect classification can lead to penalties. It is expected therefore that many firms will choose to migrate their global operations to comply with the GDPR regime.

Define FIRM (that's what she said).

And legally define 'It is expected.' Its' 100 % speculative. Not enforceable IMO.
 
Sharkey said:
Again, you seem to be conflating personal information with public information. Nobody ever said that the “back office” personal information isn’t deleted if applicable law required as much. That’s not what people are talking about when they get butthurt and demand their posts and account be deleted. They want public evidence of participation to be erased. Applicable law does not require such erasure.


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It depends on the information that's in the post.
If the username and up address are hard coded in their posts, they absolutely would need to be removed for compliance.

Of they post their email address or phone number or real name, that would also need to be removed.

Their walkthrough on how to install a cabin filter wouldn't need to be.

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WJCO said:
An excerpt from your link above :

This second category likely renders most global businesses liable. If a firm has any European presence, it would need to either become compliant for its entire user base, or become capable of identifying EU residents within its user base and adhering to GDPR rules for that group only. However, it is expensive and likely impractical to build and maintain two parallel systems and policies for EU residents and non-EU residents, and incorrect classification can lead to penalties. It is expected therefore that many firms will choose to migrate their global operations to comply with the GDPR regime.

Define FIRM (that's what she said).

And legally define 'It is expected.' Its' 100 % speculative. Not enforceable IMO.
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"Two primary groups of entities must therefore comply with the GDPR.

Firms located in the EU

Firms not located in the EU, if*they offer free or paid goods or services to EU residents*or*monitor the behavior of EU residents"


Forums in the US would fall under the second category.



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'18 WIllysW said:
https://www.gdpreu.org/the-regulation/who-must-comply/

It literally covers every organization that has EU citizens as users / customers.

There was a huge reason the world was up in arms about this when it passed. It set a precident where countries could pass laws that supercede national borders.

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shhhh

you're done, no more fucks to give. people can write whatever they want into "law" but it doesnt mean shit across an ocean.
 
'18 WIllysW said:
It depends on the information that's in the post.
If the username and up address are hard coded in their posts, they absolutely would need to be removed for compliance.
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And who in Europe gets to enforce this on US soil?

'18 WIllysW said:
"Two primary groups of entities must therefore comply with the GDPR.

Firms located in the EU

Firms not located in the EU, if*they offer free or paid goods or services to EU residents*or*monitor the behavior of EU residents"


Forums in the US would fall under the second category.
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And what if the people in the second category don't give a fuck? Then what? Who enforces it?
 
'18 WIllysW said:
It set a precident where countries could pass laws that supercede national borders.
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^^That is seriously the least intelligent thing I have read in a long time. Do you understand what “precedent” and “supersede” actually mean?

Stop frantically googling to support your position and start actually reading what you are googling. Then, when you are done with that, see if you can respond to my question (asked for the third time now).

What in the law, specifically, mandates removal of information that the user has made PUBLIC?


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JK_0311 said:
I can almost bet that Canadian company does business inside the EU, therefore will comply.


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And reading it, the company appealed it and the article left off there with no follow up from 2018. So really, not the hard proof I was looking for. Nice try though ! [emoji1360]
 
Sharkey said:
^^That is seriously the least intelligent thing I have read in a long time. Do you understand what “precedent” and “supersede” actually mean?

Stop frantically googling to support your position and start actually reading what you are googling. Then, when you are done with that, see if you can respond to my question (asked for the third time now).

What in the law, specifically, mandates removal of information that the user has made PUBLIC?


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I've been more than compliant in trying to answer your questions as best as I can.

If the forum doesn't care, then it doesn't care. I'm not going to change that. But domestic laws are changing, and compliance won't be afforded an "I don't care" anymore.

Have a good night man.

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'18 WIllysW said:
I've been more than compliant in trying to answer your questions as best as I can.

If the forum doesn't care, then it doesn't care. I'm not going to change that. But domestic laws are changing, and compliance won't be afforded an "I don't care" anymore.

Have a good night man.

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I have a Hemi in my Jeep and you don’t. [emoji13]


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'18 WIllysW said:
I've been more than compliant in trying to answer your questions as best as I can.

If the forum doesn't care, then it doesn't care. I'm not going to change that. But domestic laws are changing, and compliance won't be afforded an "I don't care" anymore.

Have a good night man.

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Define 'domestic. '
 
'18 WIllysW said:
I've been more than compliant in trying to answer your questions as best as I can.

If the forum doesn't care, then it doesn't care. I'm not going to change that. But domestic laws are changing, and compliance won't be afforded an "I don't care" anymore.

Have a good night man.

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You keep avoiding the question. Take the California law and show me where it requires removal of information that was intentionally made public. It’s really a simple request.

I agree with you that the removal of privately acquired and stored information can be subject to deletion based on a number of different laws. A public post and public username is an entirely different ball of wax though.

As for anything the EU does being supreme precedent, I’ll just leave you with this little quote from about 244 years ago. Hopefully we have all read these words before.

“That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do.”

Edit: and a good night to you as well. 🥃

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Sharkey said:
You keep avoiding the question. Take the California law and show me where it requires removal of information that was intentionally made public. It’s really a simple request.

I agree with you that the removal of privately acquired and stored information can be subject to deletion based on a number of different laws. A public post and public username is an entirely different ball of wax though.

As for anything the EU does being supreme precedent, I’ll just leave you with this little quote from about 244 years ago. Hopefully we have all read these words before.

“That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do.”

Edit: and a good night to you as well. 🥃

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