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Thanks for taking the time to give me some real world feedback! I will for sure be keeping an eye on things as the '24 JLR-X does not have a FAD. I am extremely happy with how my rig drives and handles right now that I really do not want to do anything that might adversely affect it.
Replacing with a double cardan front driveshaft has its own issues including difficulty balancing for high speeds on rigs not using a FAD. If someone comes out with a double Rzappa CV replacement driveshaft, that might be good option especially for those with lifts higher than the mild lift I did...
I don't know if I agree with that. I've been running double cardan front drive shafts on JK's for almost 20 years and on TJ's and older rigs for longer than that and with gear ratios as high as 5.38. A quality shaft that is well balanced and with caster set to factory, you really shouldn't have any issues with one.
I agree with everything you say...But I am trying to have my cake and eat it too! If the Teraflex high-angle Rzeppa really helps with even a few extra degrees of driveline angle then it should work for my needs. I contacted Adams to ask about a double cardan and they would not commit to it working for my situation, they said to 'just try it and see'...not a ringing vote of confidence. My caster is set at 6.3 (was 4.2/4.3 stock) and my 2-door JLR-X drives perfectly, tracks arrow straight at all speeds and zero vibrations at any speed. My lift is only an inch over the stock XR package and the front driveshaft angle is just slightly more severe than the factory lift and less severe than the Mopar lift which I first had on my '20 JLR.
I would be happy enough if I just had to periodically replace the boot as preventive maintenance...
6+ degrees is a LOT of caster and if you really need that much to keep your Jeep driving straight, I personally would question what's wrong with your setup to require so much. But then, that is just me. And, since you seemed to have missed it, the ONLY thing that the Teraflex rzeppa joint does is prevent the collar on it from making contact with the shaft - it does NOTHING to prevent your cv boot from being in a constant state of pinch, just like before and to be clear, the boot is what failed before. Being that you're just lifted an inch over stock, I'm actually surprised that your factory cv boot failed but for your sake, I do hope this new shaft you seemed to be sold on works out well for you
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DirtHeadDavis
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Didn't this guy get an Xtreme Recon 2 door on 35s? Why are we modifying anything already???
6+ degrees is a LOT of caster and if you really need that much to keep your Jeep driving straight, I personally would question what's wrong with your setup to require so much. But then, that is just me. And, since you seemed to have missed it, the ONLY thing that the Teraflex rzeppa joint does is prevent the collar on it from making contact with the shaft - it does NOTHING to prevent your cv boot from being in a constant state of pinch, just like before and to be clear, the boot is what failed before. Being that you're just lifted an inch over stock, I'm actually surprised that your factory cv boot failed but for your sake, I do hope this new shaft you seemed to be sold on works out well for you
Thanks for the honest response, I do truly appreciate it. I too am surprised the boot failed at just over 5000 miles, since they did approve it for a warranty repair it could be that it was just plain defective...In any case, I am just happy that neither the trans or transfer case was leaking as first suspected! As for the boot, it's a quick replacement and if worse comes to worse, I wouldn't mind treating it as a 'maintenance item'.
Yes, this was an Xtreme Recon 2-door and when I ordered it my intention was to keep it as stock as possible...This probably would have happened if not for the fact I still had my '20 JLR and it rode, drove and handled better than my brand new JLR-X! So, the mods began...and now almost complete!
I clearly did a really good job building the '20 JLR (for my needs) but during COVID lockdowns I had lots of time to experiment, including trying several different suspension setups. Took what I learned on that 2-door and applied the knowledge to modding the new 2-door XR and very, very happy with the outcome!
Update on the Teraflex JL/JT "High-Angle" Rzeppa CV joint...Total BULLSHIT! Teraflex has misleading advertising to say the least and bait and switch more readily comes to mind. Before I ordered this Rzeppa CV joint, I called Teraflex to verify that this was an improvement over the factory joint and was assured by a woman in customer service that yes it would operate at higher angles than the factory but was a direct replacement with no modifications required. Yesterday when I opened the box I was surprised to find that unlike the one shown in Teraflex's own video and pictured on their own website, the flange was 100% identical to the OEM! This morning when I called I was told this was the correct part by the same woman, I asked to be transferred to someone who might have a better understanding and then when I explained I was told that Jeep 'copied' their design and increased the angle when the JL were released and this was just a replacement for that joint...More double talk than you get from watching a Harris interview
Totally done with Teraflex...
*Still a mystery as to why the OEM boot failed at just over 5000 miles, the dealer told me the boot kit is on backorder so makes me wonder if they received a bad run of CV boots...Below is a picture of the front driveshaft I removed from my '20 JLR with a little over 35,000 miles. The '20 JLR originally had a FAD but I replaced the front axle with a UD44 w/4.88's so at least half those miles were without FAD, lifted since new and running just over 6 degrees positive caster. Zero signs of tearing on this OEM boot...
*This is the OEM Rzeppa boot from my '20 JLR with over 35,000 miles, more than half without FAD and all with 2.5" lift and over 6 degrees of positive caster, no signs of wear or tearing on the OEM boot...
TERAFLEX Rzeppa CV:
This is the "high-angle" Rzeppa CV joint Teraflex shows in their JL/JT video and on their website, you can see the flare is wider than the OEM and covers part of the inside of the bolt holes thus the need for a ball-socket hex driver...
THIS is the one Teraflex sent and is exactly the same size as OEM and clearly no need for any type of ball-socket hex driver...
Totally done with Teraflex...
*Still a mystery as to why the OEM boot failed at just over 5000 miles, the dealer told me the boot kit is on backorder so makes me wonder if they received a bad run of CV boots...Below is a picture of the front driveshaft I removed from my '20 JLR with a little over 35,000 miles. The '20 JLR originally had a FAD but I replaced the front axle with a UD44 w/4.88's so at least half those miles were without FAD, lifted since new and running just over 6 degrees positive caster. Zero signs of tearing on this OEM boot...
*This is the OEM Rzeppa boot from my '20 JLR with over 35,000 miles, more than half without FAD and all with 2.5" lift and over 6 degrees of positive caster, no signs of wear or tearing on the OEM boot...
TERAFLEX Rzeppa CV:
This is the "high-angle" Rzeppa CV joint Teraflex shows in their JL/JT video and on their website, you can see the flare is wider than the OEM and covers part of the inside of the bolt holes thus the need for a ball-socket hex driver...
THIS is the one Teraflex sent and is exactly the same size as OEM and clearly no need for any type of ball-socket hex driver...
WJCO
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Even the coyotes stay away from teraflex.
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Teraflex - Bad rep for a reason or isolated cases?
Since I joined up the forum, I scrolled a lot trough subjects and encountered many memes, opinions and quite frankly bad rep revolving around Teraflex's products. Are those comments & post isolated cases troughout Teraflex products or are they really not that great? Teraflex puts out a lot of...
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jeeeep
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not surprised, I've had the same experience when inquiring about a lift for my 2010 in 2010, because of this, I ordered Clayton.
Made the huge mistake of ordering their shocks on the promise they would have rebuild instructions soon but that didn't happen, they stopped replying to email and calls to support always ended up with "so and so will call you back" never did. Confronted their "spokesperson" and all he had to say was engineers don't want to take the time to write up rebuild/maintenance instructions (re the shocks) but send them in and they'll gladly do it for a fee - BS
I've tried many times steering people away from TF but I find they, like you, bought into their marketing and learned the lesson the $$$ way.
Mike Pierson
Hooked
This thread… it’s exhausting.
OverlanderJK
Resident Smartass
If only someone had said that it wouldn’t do anything.