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AZVAJKU said:
Great article

The preparation to take down a building in a controlled manner using explosives is extremely time consuming and requires a lot of preparation. It’s not a matter of hiding some explosives in a few areas. You are literally boring holes in the concrete with big ass concrete bits and placing explosives internally- damaging concrete and cutting I-beams is your goal. Strangely similar to what happens with intense heat.


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Then you must construct a very elaborate method of detonating the various charges in a precise sequence. Wires for electric blasting caps, Det-cord, Shock-tube or whatever method you are using looks like a giant rats nest. It’s not something you are going to hide.

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You ain’t gonna hide that- period. It’s not something you can do overnight while nobody is at work. 😂

There are only a handful of people that can do this type of work and they are mostly private sector professionals that work for a handful of family owned companies.

When you do Calculation and Placement (Calc & Place) for a job this big and precise, the ‘P’ for plenty is not the formula that you would use! đŸ€ŁđŸ˜‚


Good article here:

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How C-4 Works

C-4 is in the news quite a bit these days -- it's a powerful explosive that's used in terrorist attacks all over the world. Find out what C-4 explosive is and what it can do.
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I truly believe our government is a huge pile of shit and that they are capable of doing, and have done plenty of, really bad stuff and lied and staged many other things. Bringing down the towers is not something I believe they did.
 
AZVAJKU said:
Great article

The preparation to take down a building in a controlled manner using explosives is extremely time consuming and requires a lot of preparation. It’s not a matter of hiding some explosives in a few areas. You are literally boring holes in the concrete with big ass concrete bits and placing explosives internally- damaging concrete and cutting I-beams is your goal. Strangely similar to what happens with intense heat.


View attachment 425551

Then you must construct a very elaborate method of detonating the various charges in a precise sequence. Wires for electric blasting caps, Det-cord, Shock-tube or whatever method you are using looks like a giant rats nest. It’s not something you are going to hide.

View attachment 425552


You ain’t gonna hide that- period. It’s not something you can do overnight while nobody is at work. 😂

There are only a handful of people that can do this type of work and they are mostly private sector professionals that work for a handful of family owned companies.

When you do Calculation and Placement (Calc & Place) for a job this big and precise, the ‘P’ for plenty is not the formula that you would use! đŸ€ŁđŸ˜‚


Good article here:

science.howstuffworks.com

How Building Implosions Work

Safe, professional building implosions combine mathematics, intuition and sheer explosive power. Find out how the experts bring down huge structures without damaging the buildings nearby.
science.howstuffworks.com science.howstuffworks.com

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I tend to agree. It's hard to imagine our government being able to pull something off like this, considering they normaly screw up every thing they touch, but what about building 7 then? Also, what are the odds both towers fell exactly the same way when experts can't even agree why they fell at all? Are these buildings purposely designed to fall straight down because obviously, a building like that toppling over would have killed many thousands more?
 
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Spazbyt said:
I tend to agree it's hard to imagine our government being able to pull something off like this, considering they normaly screw up every thing they touch, but what about building 7 then? Also, what are the odds both towers fell exactly the say way when experts can't even agree why they fell at all. Are these buildings purposely designed to fall straight down because obviously, a building like that toppling over would have killed many thousands more?
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Remember this building in Thailand that collapsed due to an earthquake? It’s suspected the Chinese steel was faulty but look at how it collapses.


When you do demolitions/compromise the structure that is the effect. Tipping a building over is not very common.
 
Mike Pierson said:
I truly believe our government is a huge pile of shit and that they are capable of doing, and have done plenty of, really bad stuff and lied and staged many other things. Bringing down the towers is not something I believe they did.
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Fully agree. The event we refer to as 9-11 happened because of a series of errors and incompetence by the Fed-Gov. They then used this tragedy- that they were responsible for allowing to happen- as a justification for expanding Fed-Gov and the GWOT.

A partial list of Fuck-Ups:

Allowing persons from know terrorist countries to come in on student visas

Lack of visa overstay enforcement

Issuing driver licenses to foreigners

Not properly analyzing the items found in the first WTC bombers apartment. There were many clues but Arabic language is hard yo!

Crappy intel from the Intel community

Biased intel from the intel community- the belief that educated and wealthy individuals can’t be terrorists

Intel community silos of threat intel

Refusal to prioritize human threats- also known as Profiling

Ignoring reported threats by flight instructors because, you know, racism.

Extremely lax immigration policy that prioritizes poor people from third world countries over productive westerners.

A horrible lack of intel community personnel that speak Arabic- and are not sympathetically biased to muslims.

And many more. There has not been much improvement in the areas but we spent trillions on GWOT and have reduced freedoms and privacy of US Citizens.
 
AZVAJKU said:
Fully agree. The event we refer to as 9-11 happened because of a series of errors and incompetence by the Fed-Gov. They then used this tragedy- that they were responsible for allowing to happen- as a justification for expanding Fed-Gov and the GWOT.

A partial list of Fuck-Ups:

Allowing persons from know terrorist countries to come in on student visas

Lack of visa overstay enforcement

Issuing driver licenses to foreigners

Not properly analyzing the items found in the first WTC bombers apartment. There were many clues but Arabic language is hard yo!

Crappy intel from the Intel community

Biased intel from the intel community- the belief that educated and wealthy individuals can’t be terrorists

Intel community silos of threat intel

Refusal to prioritize human threats- also known as Profiling

Ignoring reported threats by flight instructors because, you know, racism.

Extremely lax immigration policy that prioritizes poor people from third world countries over productive westerners.

A horrible lack of intel community personnel that speak Arabic- and are not sympathetically biased to muslims.

And many more. There has not been much improvement in the areas but we spent trillions on GWOT and have reduced freedoms and privacy of US Citizens.
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This is a list of what our government is great at, being 100% incompetent. Lol
 
Remember the employees interviewed at twin towers who said they had two weeks off or so prior to 911 because the building had to be-wired for something?

And the eye witnesses inside who heard explosions from the basement and died shortly after the interviews?

And the building owner who took out an insurance policy on the buildings specifically covering them in the event of a terrorist attack?

Wasn't Jeb Bush on the board of security for the towers and for Dulles airport that day?

Probably not related.
 
When more then 9000 gallons of jet fuel melted steel beams, but boarding pass is for ever.
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Good thing this piece of paper lying in a field just stopped burning.
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WJCO said:
Remember the employees interviewed at twin towers who said they had two weeks off or so prior to 911 because the building had to be-wired for something?

And the eye witnesses inside who heard explosions from the basement and died shortly after the interviews?

And the building owner who took out an insurance policy on the buildings specifically covering them in the event of a terrorist attack?

Wasn't Jeb Bush on the board of security for the towers and for Dulles airport that day?

Probably not related.
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Undisputed Facts Point to the Controlled Demolition of WTC 7
 
Spazbyt said:
Did a Boeing 757 hit the pentagon on 9/11?
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Yes. My friend saw it with his own eyes. He was out running that morning and saw it happen.

Funny story- him and I were talking to a guy and that guy started offering his assurance about 9-11 being an inside job. Conspiracy Guy brought up the no plane hit the Pentagon deal. I started laughing and just stepped back and let my friend school him. At first Conspiracy Guy tried to argue and even started to hint that he was lying. My buddy is big and intimidating so that didn’t go far. Conspiracy Guy changed the subject and started on the deal that the Jews didn’t show up for work at WTC that day. đŸ€Ż

I expressed my opinion that the Fed-Gov is too incompetent to pull off all these elaborate plots. He looked me in the eyes and said: “The government just acts like it’s incompetent so we won’t suspect it”. đŸ€ŁđŸ˜‚

After I stopped laughing I told him it was not an act.

If you’ve ever seen the aftermath of a car bomb, artillery shell, IED detonation- it’s weird what survives and what doesn’t.

As for the wallet thing. Throw your wallet in the fire. Let it burn for a while and then pull it out. You’ll be surprised what happens.
 
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jeeeep said:
Undisputed Facts Point to the Controlled Demolition of WTC 7
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For every expert that supports some conspiracy there are just as many or more who can disprove it.

The Fed-Gov is evil, but let’s not distract ourselves by making them into ‘Hydra’ or some other super duper infallible puppet masters. There are a million concrete issues we might want to address and change before we get bogged down in the crazy.
 
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AZVAJKU said:
For every expert that supports some conspiracy there are just as many or more who can disprove it.

The Fed-Gov is evil, but let’s not distract ourselves by making them into ‘Hydra’ or some other super duper infallible puppet masters. There are a million concrete issues we might want to address and change before we get bogged down in the crazy.
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hey, I'm single and getting older... I need to attract crazy (naturally born female only) cause sane stay clear of me đŸ€Ș

or.... am I feeding the beast...
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AZVAJKU said:
Yes. My friend saw it with his own eyes. He was out running that morning and saw it happen.

Funny story- him and I were talking to a guy and that guy started offering his assurance about 9-11 being an inside job. Conspiracy Guy brought up the no plane hit the Pentagon deal. I started laughing and just stepped back and let my friend school him. At first Conspiracy Guy tried to argue and even started to hint that he was lying. My buddy is big and intimidating so that didn’t go far. Conspiracy Guy changed the subject and started on the deal that the Jews didn’t show up for work at WTC that day. đŸ€Ż

I expressed my opinion that the Fed-Gov is too incompetent to pull off all these elaborate plots. He looked me in the eyes and said: “The government just acts like it’s incompetent so we won’t suspect it”. đŸ€ŁđŸ˜‚

After I stopped laughing I told him it was not an act.

If you’ve ever seen the aftermath of a car bomb, artillery shell, IED detonation- it’s weird what survives and what doesn’t.

As for the wallet thing. Throw your wallet in the fire. Let it burn for a while and then pull it out. You’ll be surprised what happens.
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It wasn't a plane
 
AZVAJKU said:
For every expert that supports some conspiracy there are just as many or more who can disprove it.

The Fed-Gov is evil, but let’s not distract ourselves by making them into ‘Hydra’ or some other super duper infallible puppet masters. There are a million concrete issues we might want to address and change before we get bogged down in the crazy.
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It's not the Fed-Gov
 
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