I have the rock brawler without tire carrier. I bought it in hopes of adding a tire carrier down the road however PS won't even sell me the tire carrier claiming it's impossible for me to install myself and if I want their carrier I have to buy the bumper and tire carrier together and then I'd just have a spare rear bumper. I like the bumper and have had no issues and it's held up well however it annoys me I have a plugged hole where a tire carrier is supposed to go, I might just cut a plate and weld that hole up so it looks nicer. Also the rear backup lights are hard to find the exact size. I could only find it from one company online