I had an upcoming trip to Moab planned, so I finally upgraded from a Liberty to JK Unlimited Rubicon. I started watch videos on you tube and found this forum. It has already answered many questions. My Moab trip was fun but didn't get much 4 wheeling in as my son's Toyota died, (fuel pump) on the trail and we spent the rest of the day getting it back and fixed for the ride home. None the less we had a great time, and the Rubicon made everything that was difficult last year a piece of cake. I will have to up the difficulty on our next trip.