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I was going for Sarge Green - but no dealer near me had one :( - my 2nd choice was black - which is proving to be a pain to keep looking good - i should have just went with white.

I've seen J8's oversees - most forces aren't even interested in a hmmwv's ... Were these the ones with Angry Grills ? They do have a more menacing look to them. IIRC all J8's are diesels none of them are required to have dpf/scr so a non issue. If i was building something doomsday proof...

Fair enough - you can pretty much toss the keys to a hummer to anyone and they will figure it out with little to no instruction and if they don't - they won't be flipping it. Was that really worth a 1/4 million dollars though ? Then again the M151 is what I thought earned that reputation the...

ahh yes - i don't get what folks like about milspec so much it really is just "bottom bidder" stuff. To me the hummer just makes absolutely no logical sense. A slight bigger jeep would have did everything hte hummer does and costed way less upfront and the upkeep.

My Wife's JT is pretty loaded up we paid $53k OTD i believe it was ( we got hers the other week - she wnated a JLU - but liked the way the JT drove and the deals are too much to resist) - hers has just about every option except hte bedliner - which she changed her mind and wants linex'd now...

Yes it is a hell of a great deal for the diesel. I bought mine for what was $47k OTD I believe (3.6, no LED lights no 110v outlet in bed no headliner) no dual top/dual doors but otherwise pretty loaded up.

Exactly case in point - was talking with a few folks about this kind of nonsense. Seen one of these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Light_Tactical_Vehicle and was like - eh what exactly about this is light it weighs over 5 tons if i recall correctly - it does have decent payload and is...

Jeeps have had 24V systems since the M38 other solid axle vehicles have had portals since day one - like the Gwagen (also used by foreign militaries). The Jeep J8 also has a diesel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep_J8 (basically a modded JKU) - also used by foreign defense agencies. Neither...

Was just an observation at work - if you know how much one costs us tax payers and how mediocre they actually are (they do look cool though) i think you would care more - unless you just like someone else setting your money on fire. I added a TLDR.

This one has really baffled me for some time. I remmember growing up and seeing old CJ's CJ5's and probably what really got me into Jeeps (Mash/M38A1). I was told that the payload of the M38A1 left room to be desired and it didn't have much space... ok if anyone here has been in a HMMWV can...

This entire thing is a scam lol. There is nothing clean about battery tech - just because you do not see the lithium mines or the pollution that is emitted from the production of all the various components to produce the parts needed for these newer EV's/Plugin hybrids etc is nonsense. I mean if...

Watching these kids drive is scary - they are literally doing 70+mph with their phone on their laps texting and posting on instagram. It's as if smartphones have become a part of human dna or something...

I honestly was thinking of that ! All of the folks seem to be moving to TX and AZ but bringing their garbage politics with them - so a group of us should move back to CA and change it for the better is what I was thinking. *EDIT* i would have to sell so much to make that happen and we aren't...

I am sure you seen the good days and probably witnessed the epic downturn(s) first hand lol. Just saying its become common for folks to point and laugh at CA and get a sense of joy of the failure its become, but for me it's just saddening. Elections and the politicians we choose definitely...

I seen the homeless problem, crime problem and sanitation problem first hand lol (just glad I did not wear my nice watch or drive my own vehicle there). EVERYTHING was extremely expensive there - my impressions of LA was that it was a city that was uninhabitable except by the ruling/donor class...

I know some people like to gloat and point at how bad its gotten there - but it really makes me sad. CA is a beautiful state with great weather, and used to be the Mecca of just about anything anyone could imagine. I am hoping that things improve soon - but I've already seen how retarded the...

That is a steal - considering you can't even get a 392 for anywhere close to that figure.

We are supposed to heat out to base in March (for work) - I was thinking of driving out that way but everything I've read and seen (and driving through LA last time was terrible (not going to get into all the details)) - not even including all the traffic. I remember growing up in Florida I...

Welcome ! I grew up in the Tampa Bay Area.

In addition when we were ordering my wife's JLU (she's changed her mind and has a new JTR now) the Xtreme Recon has a lift - was told it has the actual 2" Mopar lift from the factory and you have the option of getting 4.88 gears but 4.56 are standard - also semi floating/floating rear is...